LaffyNov 26, 2022
@[email protected] I’m on Post, but I need someone to explain to me why everyone’s so excited about it. It’s single-column, so it’s harder to track posts, and there is paid content. So what’s the attraction?
Show threadShawn Smith PeirceNov 26, 2022

@GottaLaff The reason many in media are somewhat liking Post - mechanical issues aside - is that they're finding a similar atmosphere to Journalism Twitter, with fewer trolls, monsters, noobs, and amateurs.

As I've noted elsewhere to others lately, whatever comes next will be about the people, not the technology (although I'll admit, Post is in beta & kinda janky right now).

Mastodon is janky in its own ways. Nowhere is the same - yet.

Show threadLaffy
@_silversmith Thanks for explaining, but I still don’t get it. It’s nearly impossible to read, track posts from follows, and the beta stuff is incidental to that.
Nov 26, 2022 at 4:30pmWeb
Show threadShawn Smith PeirceNov 26, 2022

@GottaLaff Some of the problems you're having with it are because it's in beta, and not ready for the kind of use it's already getting.

So not incidental at all.

Instead of working on features & eliminating bugs to make sure those features work properly, they've prioritized handling more users. So the experience isn't what you're looking for yet.

Will it be? I don't know.

So far, they've all got their issues, & I'm unsatisfied with any of them.

Show threadLaffyNov 26, 2022
@_silversmith No, beta has nothing to do with it. Unless he provides multiple columns like Mastodon, then the format simply won’t work for me. Is he planning on doing that?
Show threadShawn Smith PeirceNov 26, 2022

@GottaLaff That much I don't know.

FWIW, I dislike multiple columns for social media. That's something that's turned me off of Counter Social.

Right now, seems like most of us just trying to duplicate our own personal choices & positive experiences on the bird site - and again, no one place is hitting all the right notes.

Too bad EM didn't piss off Putin & stand near a window.

Show threadCharles GabaNov 26, 2022
@_silversmith @GottaLaff The main features of Post seem to be the Medium-like text interface (stylized text etc) and the potential point/payment thing which seems very handy if it works.
Show threadLaffyNov 26, 2022
@charlesgaba That's exactly what I do not like about it: The payment thing. @_silversmith
Show threadCharles GabaNov 26, 2022
@GottaLaff @_silversmith Well, it depends *how* it works. I don't charge anything for my stuff at ACA Signups--I have Patreon & PayPal subscription options but they're purely voluntary; I don't really do "exclusive content for supporters" per se. But the pay-per-article thing could be an option for some writers I suppose.
Show threadLaffyNov 26, 2022
@charlesgaba I get that. I just don't like it to be at the forefront on everyone's page. To me, social media is a community, sharing, exchanging ideas, not paying for them. Like you said, that's a "private" option and I do gladly pay for content and subscriptions, but I don't like it to be in my face.
Show threadDoctor😷G 🇵🇹🇺🇸Nov 26, 2022
@GottaLaff @charlesgaba There are porn sites (which will remain nameless here) which operate along this business model. "Free exchange of ideas? No thanks."
Show threadLaffyNov 26, 2022
@dr_g_e_e That one went right over my head. You don't like exchanging ideas? We're doing that right now. @charlesgaba
Show threadDoctor😷G 🇵🇹🇺🇸Nov 26, 2022
@GottaLaff Bad writing on my part. I was fake-quoting the micropayment sleaze model.
Show threadDoctor😷G 🇵🇹🇺🇸Nov 26, 2022
@GottaLaff @charlesgaba I fixed my sloppy comment. I meant to quote the people expecting opinions to be remunerative. I pay for tons of editorial content - to three major newspapers and a gaggle of small monthly payments to Patreons. Not a matter of cheapness.
Show threadLaffyNov 26, 2022
@dr_g_e_e @charlesgaba Got it. And same here. I am willing to pay for good content, but I get put off by paywalls on a social media site.
Show threadShawn Smith PeirceNov 27, 2022

@GottaLaff @dr_g_e_e @charlesgaba Two points.

1) As the folks at Post have made clear, their reasoning for making the micropayments feature available.

While you & I subscribe to some media orgs, Post's folks want to make any person or media org who wants to make an article available, on a one-off basis hyper easy to access.

For example, "Media Org X" could have a relatively tight paywall, like the WSJ. But they could also post a piece at Post…

Show threadShawn Smith PeirceNov 27, 2022

@GottaLaff @dr_g_e_e @charlesgaba …And instead of forcing everyone to take an annual WSJ subscription or be locked out, they could make it $.99 - or in Post parlance, 99 points - to view the article.

I can see the appeal, from the user side And from the user side, I like it. BUT…

2) Micro-payments have continually proven not to work for major media companies, as a part of their business model.

So I'm quite skeptical it'll work now.

That said…

Show threadShawn Smith PeirceNov 27, 2022

@GottaLaff @dr_g_e_e @charlesgaba …As a way to help make a space where media orgs & journalists likely will feel more comfortable to post & share news?

They're definitely making that environment far more enticing than here.

Yes, media orgs can control their own instance/server here - which is exactly what their lawyers don't want.

Having another platform host the social media allows them plausible deniability, when things go wrong. And they always go wrong, eventually…

Show threadShawn Smith PeirceNov 27, 2022

@GottaLaff @dr_g_e_e @charlesgaba …For now, Post is still in Beta, and not 100% of what I'd like.

Mastodon is not in Beta - and it's also not 100% of what I'd like.

For many of us, we're going to have to be on multiple short socials, including remaining on the bird site, TFN.

I wish that weren't the case.
But for now, it is.

Show threadDoctor😷G 🇵🇹🇺🇸Nov 26, 2022
@charlesgaba @GottaLaff @_silversmith I prefer the ko-fi.com donation approach - have donated there countless times. Post is just post-digested dog's dinner.
Show threadShawn Smith PeirceNov 27, 2022
@dr_g_e_e @charlesgaba @GottaLaff No, it's not. Thanks for playing. Bye.
Show threadDoctor😷G 🇵🇹🇺🇸Nov 26, 2022
@GottaLaff @charlesgaba @_silversmith You've got something against OnlyFans for faux-intellectuals?