So if I did want to buy a book in ePub without DRM, knowing the publisher published them (O'Reilly for instance) where would I go, from UK?

If I buy them off Google Play can I download the ePub?

(And no need to tell me about No Starch, yes if what I want is theirs I'm going straight to source, obvs.)

At least it looks like Play Books allows the Digital Edition download, so it might be a bit of an inept style of work.
Okay that might not work because Google Play Books is _broken._ It redirects me to the "How to download books" page when I ask it to download the Digital Editions file.
@flameeyes Zlib and then send the author a check. F the publisher, you don't print an ebook

@neonfire The stuff I'm looking for has editors and a number of other staff behind, not just an author. And I know how important they are to a good result.

Also, I don't support hypocrisy. I might resort to that if I can't find a forking way to download it from Google Play Books _after_ I paid.

@flameeyes so pay them too, just cut out the middle men. Bands always preferred I pirated their music and then bought a Tshirt instead as they actually get that money.
@neonfire a) this is much harder to do than you make it sound b) there's a significant difference between the music industry and book authors.
@flameeyes neither get paid what they're worth, so there's less difference than you think.
@neonfire I'm afraid that if that's the way you think, you're talking to the wrong person.
@flameeyes why? Is your dad Bill O'Reilly?
@flameeyes I've been buying books off Google Play and Kobo for awhile. If it's DRM-free you get an ePub. If not you get something you can drop into Adobe Digital Editions.
@reillyeon I might need to go and get Kobo to fix my account then. Since Play Books appears to not quite work. Or maybe I'll just go annoy someone to find me the product manager to get it fixed.
@flameeyes I can reproduce the issue. I'll go file a bug... *sigh*
@reillyeon thanks 😀 I lost that privilege some time ago now, but I see not much changed 😉
@reillyeon oh hey it works today! \o/ Thank you!