"I am neither conventionally right nor left... but let me go on to say something that sounds exactly like the words of an indoctrinated far-right extremist..."
@Richard_Littler There already is a counter-narrative: that woke culture is functionally a non-thiestic religion. At least that counter-narrative has support from both lefties and righties. It is also a position I share as I am agnostic and see the same weak arguments that theists make.

@snim

What's "woke culture"?

@Richard_Littler

@EyalL @Richard_Littler Depends on who you ask. I use it in a general, neutral sense to cover all aspects of the woke/stay woke movement where it transitioned from Black communities into the cultural and political mainstream. The progressive activists would likely give a different definition.

@snim

Being aware of systemic racism? That's the definition I know.

But lots of people say various different things when I ask so I don't think there's actual agreed meaning behind this word.

And I think the vagueness is a tool to rally conservatives against an undefined enemy.

@Richard_Littler

@EyalL @Richard_Littler I find that definition problematic, people have opposed systematic racism for decades (and I am one of those people). At a minimum, I would characterize your definition as incomplete.

@snim

I think many more people are "woke" than they realize. Especially since right-wing propaganda had made it into a vague, meaningless slur. People naturally try to distance themselves from a slur.

@Richard_Littler

@snim @EyalL @Richard_Littler I don’t. In the US, there has been a concerted effort to NOT teach accurate history. Gen X folks may have grown up learning out lying, false tales in their history books. Here is my realization moment- https://www.mguhlin.org/2021/12/the-fruit-of-tree.html
The Fruit of the Tree