An argument from non-God objects for #atheism

• If #God exists, and is perfect, a reality where only God exists is the best possible world.

• God, being perfect, should create the best possible world, which is this world with only God in it.

• But this is not the case. Our universe and many things that exist within it are not God.

• Therefore a perfect God does not exist.

#CounterApologetic

@lack G is not perfect, G is not good or definable by any qualifications subject to our tiny brains. I am curious who taught you this. My home faith is Judaism, the kind that is flexible and responsive.

@minshosh That's fine! If you don't believe in a perfect G, this argument isn't for you. It's more targeted toward a "classical Theism" or Christian conception of G.

I am curious about your beliefs, if you have a minute! To start with, if G is not definable to our tiny brains, what can we know about G? Can we even claim that G is real in any meaningful way?

@lack 3/ Think James Taylor, “the secret of life is enjoying the passage of time…” Enjoy the ride!

@minshosh

First of all, thank you for the beautiful and thoughtful reply.

I agree that there are unknowns everywhere, but I don't know enough to know if they are truly unknowable. I hope that makes sense! Maybe we will know them in the future. Maybe someone besides me already knows them.

I agree that we can have experiences, especially in domains where our knowledge is extremely limited, that can make us question whether empiricism is all there is. That's good! I like to question things I thought were true to test if I was wrong. But to take the invitation to question as an answer seems a bit premature. If empiricism isn't all there is, how can we know that? What does "knowledge" even mean, then?

In closing, I resonate strongly with your James Taylor quote. (Aside: I just learned "Fire and Rain" and it's a fun tune on the guitar!) I am enjoying the ride, and I'm glad you are, too! My disbelief in deities or the supernatural doesn't remove the wonder from my life. It helps me appreciate how much we don't know, but also marvel at how much we do!