Clive ThompsonNov 15, 2022

A terrific thread by @shengokai about why the absence of quote-tweeting on Mastodon can be a road-block to the organic formation of something like Black Twitter here: https://zirk.us/@shengokai/109346991978893779

Quote-tweeting allows for a style of call-and-response interaction; lose it and you lose that too

Dr. Johnathan Flowers (@[email protected])

I'm converting my mastodon critiques into a word document that I will likely use to post mastodon local versions of those large threads about mastodon that I've made on twitter. Having said that, I'm not really "anti-mastodon," as much as I am trying to point out that the fediverse does not have the tools to support the ways that marginalized groups built community on the bird site. And it really comes down to affordances of the platforms.

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jfkaufmanNov 21, 2022
Show threadJay Rosen
@clive @shengokai For me the lack of quote-tweeting is a significant loss. It was probably the best tool ever invented for a press critic.
Nov 21, 2022 at 12:58amWeb
Show threadSascha Pallenberg 🇹🇼 ♻️ ⚡Nov 21, 2022

@jayrosen_nyu
in my opinion it is part of the anti-viral design approach of #Mastodon
It's a huge trigger for finger-pointing on #Twitter

@clive @shengokai

Show threadCarpInSanDiegoNov 21, 2022
@jayrosen_nyu @clive @shengokai you can still screen grab and post with response. 🤷
Show threadmiketcopeNov 21, 2022
@clive @shengokai @jayrosen_nyu you can still copy a link and post about it https://mastodon.social/@jayrosen_nyu/109379078895710918
Show threadClive ThompsonNov 21, 2022

@jayrosen_nyu @shengokai

Yep, there are definitely things lost without having that built in

Show threadJames GleickNov 21, 2022
@clive @jayrosen_nyu @shengokai Has anyone found a next-best substitute for quote-tweeting? Does it suffice to copy a link to a post and include that in your new post? Or is there anything better?
Show threadAaron Ross Powell ☸️Nov 21, 2022
@JamesGleick
There are Mastodon clients that turn links in posts into link previews, which isn't a feature of the native web client. Seems like something similar could happen with QTs. So include a link to the post, as you've offered as an option, and the app or web front end can format it as a Twitter style QT. And that can happen without any changes to the base Mastodon code.
@clive @jayrosen_nyu @shengokai
Show threadBob KoppNov 21, 2022

@JamesGleick @clive @jayrosen_nyu @shengokai Maybe quote the same way you would in print. Adds a bit of friction, but probably could be automated and leaves the quoter taking a bit more ownership than a QT, perhaps therefore less likely to use for ridicule.

E.g., as @JamesGleick says:

“Has anyone found a next-best substitute for quote-tweeting? Does it suffice to copy a link to a post and include that in your new post? Or is there anything better?” https://sciencemastodon.com/@JamesGleick/109382164896270327

James Gleick (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Has anyone found a next-best substitute for quote-tweeting? Does it suffice to copy a link to a post and include that in your new post? Or is there anything better?

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Show threadClive ThompsonNov 21, 2022

@bobkopp @JamesGleick @jayrosen_nyu @shengokai

That's an interesting style -- I'll give it a try!

Show threadTamar YellinNov 21, 2022
@jayrosen_nyu @clive @shengokai I liked it too, but I think I can survive without it ;-)
Show threadIdealistic Pragmatist Nov 21, 2022
@jayrosen_nyu @clive @shengokai proposed workaround that’s worked for me a few times: respond to the tweet in question with what you want to say, in detail, and then boost your own post, advising people to click through and scroll up to see the original context.
Show threadIdealistic Pragmatist Nov 21, 2022
@jayrosen_nyu @clive @shengokai It feels clunky and kludgey, but it has one big social advantage: it keeps the conversation in the original place rather than splintering it up to a dozen separate conversations on different timelines.
Show threadClive ThompsonNov 21, 2022

@IPEdmonton @jayrosen_nyu @shengokai

Yep