Tech CEOs coming from Twitter are like "There's no way a federated system can scale! Look at this thing, it runs on Rails!"

And there are so many loaded assumptions in that statement, between how this thing is supposed to work and what the capacities and limits of the underlying technologies are. Like, I seriously doubt your expertise on any of those subjects?

Anyway, it's not like every single instance has to replicate all content made by millions of accounts, or that the majority of traffic has to be concentrated in any one place. There will be challenges, but the nature of the beast is not the same as a corporate social network.
@sean and yet here we are, scaling this thing
my kinda broken friendica shared hosting delays messages from a day or two up to two weeks and that's like the right delay some times ..
#fediverse
@sean me, running an Elixir server on 2GB of RAM and federating with everyone so far: "lol, lmao even"
@sean And it also probably shows a massive misunderstanding of how things like twitter works.
Twitter cannot work on a single server, so they need to figure out how to replicate and stream data between their machines.

It's why I wish more people would grasp that Centralised / Decentralised are *political* words and not really technical ones as after all the way it works technically isn't so important.
@sean Isn’t email a federated system?
@rasterweb Yes, but it's also dominated by large corporations with proprietary implementations and reputation systems that negatively affect self-hosters.

@sean
Also for decades ISPs blocked TCP/25 unless you paid for it.

@rasterweb

@sean Totally. I just shut down my mail server this year (after running it for about 15 years.) I was more after the fact that email is *waves hands* everywhere and no one "owns" it. Remember when Slack tried to kill email for their proprietary version of IRC?
@rasterweb as a chat client, Slack is pretty okay. As a company and platform? Dogshit.

Although, I've always been deeply weirded out by how much Slack and Discord look alike, down to certain visual stylings, UI components, and method of using Electron for desktop and mobile clients.

@sean Linux. Blender. AWS.

Mastodon can scale.

@sean stuff can scale when its logic isn’t about connecting everyone to everyone through optimisation, instead leaving everyone accessible to everyone, were they to form a bond
@sean Unless it's about money "CEO" and "expertise" rarely go well together. It's not surprising that they don't believe fediverse can scale because it can't generate revenue like centralized services.
@sean @rysiek Also, I’m not a huge fan of Rails, but to be fair and give credit where it’s due, it can be scaled as evidenced by many companies running big workloads on it. Shopify, no small system, is built on it, for example.
@sean I guess they think about networks with millions of users. Right now fediverse network is still relatively small.