Druid 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿Nov 17, 2022
I just dipped into Twitter to read the fantastic news that the Snowdonia National Park Authority has voted to use the original Welsh names Yr Wyddfa #YrWyddfa and #Eryri rather than the imposed English #Snowdon and #Snowdonia. It's a massive win for reclaiming our #Welsh cultural heritage. I honestly can't believe the amount of hatred, abuse and racism in the Twitter comments from English people. I've no idea why they are so angry that another country wants to use its own language. #Cymraeg 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
Show threadSue ArcherNov 17, 2022

@druid I think there are many reasons why some English people are so opposed to multilingualism (in any other language). Paranoia (they're talking about me), jealousy (they're doing something I can't), fear (I don't understand), controlfreakery (they should just use English) and snobbishness (English is used worldwide, why would anyone need another language). Any one person can have one or many of these feelings.

Fortunately, we're not all like that!

Show threadSteve BNov 17, 2022
@suearcher @druid It really is the tiny minority that are like that. But they are the ones who shout the loudest, or at all.
Show threadelizabeth veldonNov 17, 2022
@Steveb @suearcher @druid to an extent, yes. however england voted for brexit, for the tories...
Show threadSue ArcherNov 17, 2022
@elizabethveldon @Steveb @druid some of England did, not me!
Show threadelizabeth veldonNov 17, 2022
@suearcher @Steveb @druid that is true, it is not all english people but it was a jajority who voted for brexit.
Show threadSteve BNov 17, 2022
@elizabethveldon @suearcher @druid no, it wasn’t. Can’t recall the exact numbers, but about 30% voted for Brexit.
Show threadelizabeth veldonNov 17, 2022
@Steveb @suearcher @druid 53.4% of those who voted in england voted to leave, that's a majority.
Show threadSteve BNov 17, 2022

@elizabethveldon Exactly. Of those who voted. Turnout was about 70%.

I'm not entirely sure what you're angle is here. It feels like you are trying to say ALL English people are the same because ALL English people voted for BREXIT. Which we've proved isn't the case.

For the record, I'm dual nationality, English & Irish. I've not lived in England for over 26 years and feel no affiliation to the place.

Show threadelizabeth veldonNov 17, 2022

@Steveb no, i am saying that england voted by a majority for brexit.

england voted for brexit

Show threadSteve BNov 17, 2022

@elizabethveldon In which case, again, you're wrong.

Those who voted, voted by a majority, which you have said somewhere. But that is a very different thing to the majority of people in England voted for BREXIT.

I accept to many, there is no distinction, but when it comes to some as contentious as BREXIT, it's important to be super accurate. IMO.

Show threadelizabeth veldonNov 17, 2022

@Steveb england voted for brexit, those who voted voted for brexit.

you can not assign those who did not vote to either side, you can only count those who did.

Show threadSteve BNov 17, 2022

@elizabethveldon Not trying to. Just striving for complete clarity. The majority of English did not vote BREXIT. The majority of the English who voted, did. Thus, the majority of English DID NOT vote BREXIT.

😃

Show threadelizabeth veldonNov 17, 2022
@Steveb this is the worst argument in the world and does nothing but allow 'liberal' english people to hide from what their country has done.
Show threadSteve BNov 17, 2022

@elizabethveldon LOL.

What should they do? Campaign for a new referendum? Go on strike? Get into arguments on social media?

😜

Show threadelizabeth veldon
@Steveb admit that england has become a racist backwater sliding into fascism?
Nov 17, 2022 at 2:13pmWeb
Show threadSteve BNov 17, 2022
@elizabethveldon Did I ever say differently? I'm not arguing for or against that statement, no matter how much it massively generalises an entire nation. I'm just pointing out the inaccuracies in some of your statements.
Show threadelizabeth veldonNov 17, 2022

@Steveb they are not inacurate, england voted for brexit and i am sorry that this truth maks you uncomfortable.

this conversation is pointless and i now consider it over.

Show threadSteve BNov 17, 2022
@elizabethveldon and we were getting on so we’ll too! Bye.
Show threadelizabeth veldonNov 17, 2022

@Steveb when i asked for the conversation to be over i didn't want a retort. blocking you now.

learn to respect other people's bounderies.

Show threadMosstrooperNov 17, 2022
@elizabethveldon @Steveb You're right Elizabeth it was the english who voted for Brexit and we're all having to endure it, thanks to them. Scotland was 62% remain and that'll have increased. It was a scam and a majority of Scots knew it.