Caitlin MoranNov 9, 2022
I wonder if this place will allow an actual chill discussion about Just Stop Oil? I am in favour of them simply because all of history shows that big movements for change have two wings - an extreme disruptive one, and a more moderate one. And you need both. And they are still causing less disruption than floods, wildfires and extreme heat.
Show threadRuthSNov 9, 2022
@mscaitlinmoran
I am not in favour of the "Just Stop Oil" actions as we live in a democracy with universal suffrage where the way to change public policy is through the ballot box, at local and national level.
The suffragettes did not have a political solution open to them and fought for us to have that right so that no one else had to cause chaos to make a political point.
#ukpolitics #juststopoil
Show threadFish Id WardrobeNov 9, 2022
@RuthS @mscaitlinmoran We're just supposed to sit on our hands for two years, then? Don't think so, sorry.
Show threadRuthS
@fishidwardrobe @mscaitlinmoran
use those two years to develop your political campaign. Either launch your own party or influence the main steam parties to adopt your policy proposals.
We have a democracy and a political system to set government policy. Use it or lose it !
Nov 10, 2022 at 11:11amWeb
Show threadFish Id WardrobeNov 10, 2022

@RuthS @mscaitlinmoran "launch my own party" – I'm sorry, even if that would work -- and have you seen any effective new parties in the last 100 years? -- with what money?

This is a ridiculous conversation. Protest has always been a legitimate part of democracy. I'm sorry if that makes you uncomfortable. But in order for things to change for the better, a lot of people will have to be uncomfortable.

'Bye. muting you now. Good luck.