Mastodawn

Once upon a time I was pretty strong on the idea that you must share all the things all the time #OpenNotebookScience but I've grown up a bit to realise there is some nuance

So this is not a suggestion that people should share (or feel they should) everything, just that it would be interesting to know what was on people's minds, desktops and workflows on a day to day basis

...and yes, also playing with content warnings as a way to reduce the litter in other people's feeds.

I'm feeling that CWs are potentially a very powerful tool for signposting and taking care to protect followers' time and attention (probably because they were designed to do just that!)

...huh but maybe it doesn't make sense to keep them for the whole thread if it is set to unlisted? Still trying to work that out.

@cameronneylon

Possibly my newbie-ness (Definitely!), but I saw your thread in Mastodon web interface without expansion and it looked like you were just repeating yourself bcs so much was in CW (didn't realise more below fold).

AND - YES to work in progress for more open process.

I would love an agreed hashtag, any agreed one, for this so it is findable.

#ResearchWIP and [topic of research] so is findable if no unlisted?

@Infoventurer Yep, navigating around that behaviour at the moment. I think it needs a social practice around either turning the CW off when replying (if that's appropriate of course!). But the possible nuance is great if we can find the right practice

And yes, I was thinking #ResearchNotes but #ResearchWIP is also good, and definitely on a discipline/topic hashtag

@cameronneylon I am trying to get #GLAMread up for shared GLAM links, and tried #OAread too today... what it says on the box ... useful things to read in those fields.

So.. #ResearchNotes works well. OR #[field]Research ... I dunno.. is an info organisation puzzle...

..possibly the form type should go before the subcategory (so #ReadGLAM ) ??

@Infoventurer I'm quite interested in looking across fields so one tag for #ResearchNotes and a second one for the topic works well for me but I suspect localised practice in specific communities will win out anyway! (it usually does!)

Next question - do I make this reply public?!? Or boost your reply?

@cameronneylon

We get to make that up. Both are correct right now??????

I have a "let's use #GLAMread" post further down my timeline, explaining that I actually use those friendly and generous links in my work and would be far less able to do my job if they dry up...

@cameronneylon @Infoventurer content and community is so driven by hashtags here, because it's so decentralized
This is great for ex-Twits but not so obvious for ppl from other backgrounds

@missemilielib @cameronneylon ... Also [if toot is listed] searchable when free-text explicitly is not...

... so if I want to just chat with you about my GLAMread I can and no-one can search it... unless I tag it with #GLAMread to say "yep - you can come play here and chat with me about it"

@Infoventurer @missemilielib

Yes, very much wondering what this thread looks like to other people or how you might navigate through them...

@cameronneylon @Infoventurer I know that replies become more visible to people if they're Boosted, i.e. they become discoverable across instances that I belong to if I Boost something you said on your server

@Infoventurer @cameronneylon ahah that's a great way to frame it

Fabiana Kubke Nov 8, 2022

@cameronneylon You could attach a hashtag so people can silence those regular notes when they are not keen on it perhaps? I would be interested, but not all the time.

@cameronneylon yes indeed, it will be great to play with ideas for how enhanced content moderation (and metadata?) can be used in the research comms/scholarly comms context
Was so impressed by this, when I first explored Mastodon for personal networking a few months ago

@missemilielib Yes! Am finding myself wondering what other toolchains in the #fediverse can do in terms of metadata over the CWs or collating hashtags

Questions also already being asked about #Altmetrics on Mastodon which is an interesting area to think about as well

@cameronneylon it's all open source still so the possibilities are wide open again
This is so exciting

Ross Mounce Nov 8, 2022

@cameronneylon CWs are such an excellent feature aren’t they? The more CWs the better - even if the content hidden isn’t offensive or scary or stress-inducing.

But yeah I definitely haven’t mastered CWs in threads -it’s a little annoying the the CW hides even inoffensive one word replies to a CW root post. Would be nice to be able to turn off CW down the thread in the replies

@rmounce Experimenting here - I think the replier can turn the CW off (I just have) but the default is for it to stick and toot to be public...that makes sense of course, the chances of a reply deserving the same CW are high

I could see a logic in turning CW off and going to unlisted though when its a "this is a longish post you may not want to bother with unless you are specifically interested" and the replies are short

Ross Mounce Nov 8, 2022

@cameronneylon nice, seems like it’s been really well designed

Nadav Perez-Vaisvidovsky Nov 8, 2022

@cameronneylon I would love that, from everyone around. There's a great potential in academic instances

Martin Paul Eve Nov 8, 2022

@cameronneylon unsure how well this works. I just ended up having to do an extra tap to see whether what was behind the CW was something I wanted to see or not, whereas if you'd just typed it I would have quickly skimmed. Adds an extra interaction per post...

@mpe Yeah, and you probably saw I decided against it when I actually wrote a note. I’m unsure, as are a lot of other people clearly - there’s a balance between effort and risk that’s kind of hard to judge. And there seems a lot more sensitivity here to the risk of annoying/upsetting someone which is great.

In common with twitter it is very hard to get a sense of what *other* people are seeing which I guess is why there is such a lot of explicit advice on practice going around?

Martin Paul Eve Nov 8, 2022

@cameronneylon definitely!

@cameronneylon am remembering those halcyon days of Twitter 15 years ago the more I explore 🐘
Back when so much was still experimental and open source and there was less algorithm-mediated content discovery and more human-powered discovery

@missemilielib I've been contemplating what it means to lose the 15 years worth of network building on Twitter.

But as I think it through, the algorithmic timeline and fact I refused to get a blue tick meant I was being pretty much ghosted anyway at least out our niche, and that niche seems to be pretty much moving here wholesale...