mccNov 6, 2022

#FediTips (or perhaps #FediWarnings?):

Something I discovered the other day on accident is in Mastodon and derivative software, if you are sending someone a DM, and you spontaneously tag someone in the middle of the message, *that person now has read access to the DM in which they're mentioned*. This is a neat feature if you're using it on purpose but could be awkward if you're just trying to link an account and suddenly that account can see you talking about them…!

Show threadCEbbinghausNov 6, 2022
@mcc I have always thought that the dm's are really badly implemented since they are just toots that nobody else can see. I feel like a better alternative would just be to either join with matrix to create chats between users or roll a non activity pub dm system
Show threadmcc

@CEbbinghaus I think from a UX perspective it's really neat to have the "toots" and DM in a single feed with a single interface. I think that's better than Twitter DMs. "Take this to a side discussion".

Obviously having encryption on protected content in Mastodon would be great. However browser E2E encryption is problematic and it is not the mastosoc devs' core competency.

Integrating matrix with masto is interesting, but once you do that do you need Mastodon?

Nov 6, 2022 at 11:36pmTusky
Show threadCEbbinghausNov 7, 2022
@mcc Well that is kinda what a dm is. A side discussion. So I believe it should be treated as such. As for if mastodon would be needed if matrix was integrated into it; Of course it would. Matrix is purely 1:1 or group chats only to select people so it would be the perfect drop in for a chat system within mastodon. The problem is that every account has to be 2 accounts and they are completely different protocols
Show threadmccNov 7, 2022

@CEbbinghaus I mean, I don't want a chat system, though. I want to drop a reply into a Mastodon thread with visibility restricted to my conversation partner.

So if Matrix had messages that were adequately durable to be like a thread rather than a chat, haven't we basically reinvented Mastodon in one of the steps to reach that point?