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The Doctor

Open question, folks:

Digital Ocean is getting too expensive to host my servers there. I'm pricing out options for #vps providers to move my stuff to.

I'm considering moving everything to OVH, after speccing out servers and computing monthly prices. However, before I start planning out the migration I wanted to ask if anybody out there used their services. What do you think of them? Do they suck? If so, how much?

If you use their hosted database service, is it a hosted database server (where you can stand up however many databases (groups of tables) you want, and how many users thereof) or is a hosted /database/ (i.e., a group of tables) only?

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Sep 14, 2022 at 10:05pmWeb
Show threadAurynn ShawSep 14, 2022

@drwho OVH is an OpenStack cloud, and OpenStack can be ... painful.

But I haven't used OVH directly so I can't really tell you much about them there.

Show threadThe DoctorSep 15, 2022
@aurynn I.. really don't like Openstack. But, if they have a control panel that works like any other VPS provider's, I don't much care.
Show threadgledSep 14, 2022
@drwho look at online.net or hertzner maybe, unless you require something in north america ?

OVH can work ok till something weird happens... and that can go down very fast very bad...

Had many issues over the years, both on a professional and personal setting, from raid hardware failures leading to a server being wiped by the support agent to plain badflappy solutions deployed ( oh the joy of OVH voip service .... ), ... can elaborate more by dm if needed...

Had also that one server running for a couple years without incidents before retirement.

Experience told me that if I *have* to use them, to keep it at the bare basic services.
Show threadAdam PiggottSep 15, 2022
@drwho I recall this recent Hacker News thread. Small sample size, though.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32821661
Ask HN: OVH not answering tickets for weeks? | Hacker News

Show threadJoYoSep 15, 2022
@drwho their prices went up? that’s news to me. they do hide their cheaper options but they’re still there.
Show threadThe DoctorSep 15, 2022
@JoYo My bill went up $75us in a single month for no appreciable change.
Show threadJoYoSep 15, 2022
@drwho holy shit, pull the breaks on that. i have a bunch of the lowest tier droplets so I usually have the option to turn some off if I’m feeling slim in the wallet.
Show threadThe DoctorSep 15, 2022
@JoYo I only have three droplets and a hosted database. Cost bounced in August and I need to jump ship.
Show threadKuba OrlikSep 15, 2022
@drwho OVH's management panel is hot garbage. Hard to navigate, slow, misleading. It's the reason why I moved everything to Hetzner
Show threadThe DoctorSep 15, 2022
@kuba Hmm. I'll take a look at both. Thank you.
Show threadNemo_bis 🌈Sep 15, 2022

@drwho #OVH is good especially if you don't want to be subject to the Cloud Act.

I use OVH in some projects with others because, at least for the "public cloud" vps offering, performance and costs are predictable, the control panel etc. are easy to use and debug (the underlying API is open!), support always answers in timely and useful fashion. So it's easier to ask people to collaborate.

For my Mastodon instance I use #Scaleway, see example costs: https://respublicae.eu/@praetor/108424466097391203

ResPublicae.eu admin (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image For transparency and in case it helps people considering whether to self-host a similar #Mastodon instance, the operating costs of #ResPublicae are currently a little less than 25 €/month (VAT included). Without any performance optimisation whatsoever, the instance is currently quite overprovisioned and should have enough capacity to withstand over 1 year of growth. Using a smaller instance would cut hosting costs by some 10 €/month, but reducing #MastoAdmin time costs is more important.

Mastodon
Show threadThe DoctorSep 15, 2022

@nemobis I just want to not overrun my exocortex budget again.

I'll check out Scaleway, too. Thank you.

Show threadArkadiusz WieczorekSep 15, 2022
@drwho I recommend you Hetzner, they have low prices and outstanding admin panel, top notch! Their support is eager to help and I have never been disappointed. I moved here from OVHCloud.
Show threadMichał NareckiSep 15, 2022
@arek @drwho yup, Hetzner is the way to go 👍🏻
Show threadThe DoctorSep 15, 2022
@arek I'll check them out, thank you!
Show threadFlakiSep 15, 2022
@drwho I migrated my stuff to Hetzner from DO and never looked back, very good service and low price for VMs on modern, fast machines.
Show threadThe DoctorSep 15, 2022
@flakoot Good to know - thank you.
Show threadSuitably ballyhooedSep 15, 2022
@drwho I run on Hetzner also, they have a hardware auction thing where you can lock in some really good prices for used/refurb machines too (so you could deploy containers to metal).
Show threadThe DoctorSep 15, 2022
@antifuchs Hmmm...
Show threadPaul Wilde  :dontpanic_nobg:Sep 15, 2022
@drwho I've been using OVH for about 5 years now and I have a number of VPSs with them. the service is good and reliable, even when one of their datacentres burned down they were pretty transparent in communications, "your VPS was in one of the total loss zones", so we'll credit you so you can set up a new one.

never had an issue with support, or the service
Show threadThe DoctorSep 15, 2022

@paul Good to know.

Do you know if it's possible to use their public cloud hosted database service with a couple of VPSes? How limited are they?

Show threadPaul Wilde  :dontpanic_nobg:Sep 15, 2022
@drwho I've not used the database services I'm afraid, I just run pretty minimal and lean VPSs and put a database on those if I need one. sorry!
Show threadThe DoctorSep 15, 2022
@paul 's okay, thank you.