talking to ttrpg people is like "do i play d&d? oh no of course not, you see [39 minute explanation of why d&d players are killing the hobby and are worse than satan]. i do have these 18 books for games i kickstarted for $40 each, i have never played any of them but they're really exciting. also none of them have any rules"
"hey if that's not your jam we can always play one of the 288 one-page rpgs i got on itch"
part of why i don't play any non-d&d ttrpgs is so i don't have to talk to these people
rules-lite is one thing but i just want to grab some of these people and shake them by the shoulders yelling "YOU CAN JUST WRITE A BOOK TOGETHER"
like whatever play whichever games you want, if you're having fun i'm happy for you. but you're not having a better, more enlightened form of fun than i am because i like to deal DAMAGE with NUMBERS that come from DICE