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Another one for the community moderation thread: DEATH.
We just lost an Islander to COVID-19. I had to knock out an MotD in a hurry to get money and messages of condolence to his widow:
https://www.improbableisland.com/motd.php?id=509
It's very late and I'm getting up very early and I'm emotionally exhausted from writing this, so there'll be more on this subject tomorrow.
For now, think on it, because this will happen to you.
Alright real quick thought on this because it just popped in there and grief does weird things to us:
Remember that bit towards the start of RoboCop where the chief comes in and takes the dude's name off the locker, says when the funeral is and donations to the family can be given to Cecil as usual? For a start, you're the chief, and you're Cecil too, so that's two jobs right out the damn gate
Alright, I'm awake, too damn early, and online death.
On any community website, people will die. When you, the admin, learn of one, it's because they were so heavily into the site that their spouse or whoever reached out to you or someone on the site to say hey this thing meant a lot to this person. That's vanishingly rare and for every one of those people there are scores who appear to just stop logging on, and are indistinguishable from people who just stop logging on but who are alive.
Just as we don't have the cultural DNA to be able to handle living on the internet, which is a huge part of our lives despite being brand heckin' new, we're even less prepared for people on the internet dying. The internet is so new, and death online so rarely noticed, that there's no real cultural consensus on how to process it. We have not yet developed rituals and stories and processes to help us cope with online death, so our range of reactions can be even more wildly varying.
Specific to our game, when a modulator died some years ago, we organized a walkabout through her places (player-created buildings) to find that she had left her character in a bed.
Seeing her name on a computer screen sent adrenaline down my spine and I legit felt like I'd seen a ghost. I reacted to seeing her name, in this context, the way I'd react to seeing a ghost, because although I knew her very well, I knew her *as a name.* I saw her *name* in exactly the context that I knew *her.*
We hear about moments like these, like an app posting on someone's behalf about some dumb game on Facebook or whatever, and although the following emotions can be anger or sadness or comfort or even becoming a part of a ritual of rememberance, the initial emotion in the moment tends to be shock. People literally say "I felt like I'd seen a ghost," because online we're halfway ghosts anyway.
So I remembered this last night, and I warned people that the player's character was still standing in their place. I didn't remove them, because some people would want me to and some would not want me to and the emotions are conflicting and wildly varying (because like I say no cultural consensus on how to handle death online and no stories to give is frameworks for how to grieve), but there's never anything wrong with warning folks so they can prepare.
Other things to keep in mind when dealing with the death of an online community member:
Yes, post a public message. You'll have complex admin-only feelings about the member that do not apply to the general userbase; keep those to yourself unless directed otherwise by the player's friends, because this isn't about you. Search "Comfort in, dump out" for info on that.
(our player's MotD, his friends told me, should be to GET PEOPLE THE HELL VACCINATED)
The family may ask you for kind words from the userbase, or set up a funeral fund.
The member's grieving family see your site as a source of happiness for the deceased member, and want to include it. The grieving family is not thinking, right now, of the nazi troll you banned last week.
The funeral home will set up a memorial page with all sorts of personal info. Don't link to it.
Tell your members to send kind words and money to *you,* and you'll pass them along.
DON'T DOXX THE WIDOW.
Everyone but the very young has known death. Traumatizing and awful as it can often be, it's a common experience for which we have a script to follow. *Online* death, or rather *noticed* online death, is much newer, people don't know how to cope, and there'll be kind of a mess. Be extra gentle with your users for the next little while.
Also be extra gentle with yourself, and try to resist the temptation to view the deceased as the most visible tip of an iceberg of unknown ghosts.
Online Community Moderation Thread Part NaN: backseat moderation
You've gotta have a thing in your CoC that prohibits talking on behalf of mods, IE people going around saying "Careful, the mods don't like that."
When people say that, they usually mean "I don't like it but I'm gonna shift the fallout of this social sanction away from Cool Free Speech Guy Who Doesn't Care here, and onto Evil Site Staff Who Are Literally Hitler."
Never let anyone speak for you or your mods.
Adding this on to the community moderation thread:
Someone at Stern Pinball got talked into making a pinball discussion platform to go with their new high-scores app. The forum isn't live yet but it's 100% going to be an absolute disaster and I Can Not Wait.
Pinball specifically suffers from several of the dynamics I've talked about in this thread, and having a manufacturer start their own forum about their own games is also a uniquely awful idea so get your drama-slurping straws ready
Pinball is a Rich White Old hobby. Ten years ago it was possible to buy pinball machines for fairly cheap, but now the used pinball machine market is full of predatory parasitic investors - that is, blokes with too much money who buy any machine under three grand sight unseen with no intention of playing it, just sticking it into storage and waiting for the price to go yet higher. Obviously there is Drama about this, and about how big the bubble can swell before it pops.
Pinball is currently going through a slow but steady revival, which means new people are coming into the hobby.
Some of them are young.
Some of them are *women* for god's sake.
I've even heard that one or two of them might be... "you know..."
So pinball has been undergoing the sort of drama that happens when a hobby has gone a long time without any new blood, and the old guard are stubborn - and even the ones who aren't resistant to change are slow to adapt.
The biggest pinball forum is Pinside, and it's a horrible, horrible place. It's less horrible than the newsgroup that came before it, but it's still horrible. There's also Tilt Forums, which can be horrible sometimes but for pinball it's comparatively unhorrible.
The pinball community has been so poorly served that they're primed to expect online pinball discussions *in general* to be some flavour of horrible. Standards and expectations are *very* low going in.
So pinball is a rich old white dude hobby struggling with gatekeeping and racism and sexism with no real way out of the cycle (save for "route your beaters," any pinball people reading this - not every game has to be restored to mint condition, put your sheds out at a quarter or 50c a play and let the working classes have a go for a change), and into this whole Situation comes Stern Pinball, the epitome of Rich Old White Dude companies.
Stern in particular is well-known for erasing threads on their Facebook page that veer into territory even slightly critical (such as asking for code updates to abandoned games). Combine this with the sense of entitlement you often see in rich people, and you've got a recipe for a 1:1 ratio of Pinball/First Amendment threads.
This forum will be a case study unto itself!
Earlier on I talked about how targeted advertising is a scam from flim-flam men, and your best bet was to go for completely untargeted and really wide-reach advertising to find the people who don't yet know (or act like) they want your thing.
This article says that companies who turned off targeted ads don't notice any difference, and nearly all of the people who were targeted would have bought the thing anyway:
https://sparktoro.com/blog/what-if-performance-advertising-is-just-an-analytics-scam/
I saw someone had posted this link on Fedi earlier but I forget who it was. I remember coming across this site five years or so ago and absolutely inhaling it. In the time since I last had a look it's been updated:
http://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/index.html
It's a study of forums for estranged parents - that is, forums full of people so horrible that their own kids disown them.
I'm posting this to the community moderation thread because the behaviour patterns of these sorts of estranged parents mesh so perfectly with the sorts of abusive behaviours that you have to warn your community members about.
This series of articles is ostensibly about parental abuse, but much of the content applies equally well to most emotional abusers.
Particularly useful for online community modulation is this list of dysfunctional beliefs at http://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/dysfunctional-beliefs.html - here's a sampling:
* If one understands something, then one agrees with it. If I don’t agree with something, then I don’t understand it. If you don’t agree with me, then you don’t understand me, and can’t claim that you understand me until you agree with me.
* Emotions cause actions. When I feel something, I can’t not act on it.
Heck I kinda wanna make a list of dysfunctional beliefs that people have about participating in online communities. :)
Dysfunctional ideas about interacting in online spaces, ban if you see evidence of folks thinking this way:
* This website won't survive if I leave it.
* This website's norms don't work for me, so I will try to change those norms rather than fitting in or going to a different website.
* If a website's rule is insufficiently specific, then the important thing is to break it, or nearly break it, so that the admin will make it more specific.
* This website owes me for the time I spend on it.
* Power corrupts, so the moderators of a hobby website should be treated with the same disdain or distrust one would treat a millionaire politician or CEO.
* Moderators only become moderators because they want power over others.
Oof, sad news about Something Awful founder Lowtax.
Something Awful has been going through a messy and painful transformation, a kind of reckoning with its past self, and at some point I was gonna do a case study for this thread.
I've only just heard about Lowtax's suicide so it's probably not a great time to start that analysis, but in the moment this feels like a cautionary tale about deleting your old stuff so you can change.
Community Moderation Thread continued, a case study:
@[email protected] shows us the eventual end state of the hobby degradation dynamic I talked about earlier in this thread.
https://social.bau-ha.us/@aurora/107434889581265192
This starts with admins allowing forums to shift away from normal, everyday conversation about a hobby, and towards threads where people post pictures of the thing they bought today. Further in Aurora's thread are some counterexamples of still-viable groups.
ava vs. the universe ✨ (@[email protected])
trying to sell my old hifi setup and realizing that the stuff i bought for 1-10€ a piece on ebay 15 years ago is now worth over 500€ :blobfoxeyes:
All hobby communities are vulnerable to consumerist takeover, and the effects can spill out into the real world as we've seen here, inflating prices and cutting off new members apart from the very rich, cementing a self-reinforcing mechanism.
There is no saving a hobby community that has entered this downward spiral. Once a hobby becomes involved with financial speculation, it's a rich-getting-richer wasteland until the bubble bursts, which can take years.
Stopping a hobby from becoming taken over by the empty content of the rich is easy, but requires vigilance and community buy-in.
Establish in your CoC that posts amounting to no more than "Look at this thing I bought today" are spam, and will be treated as such. Talk about the hobby degradation phenomenon in your CoC so that people understand why it's a necessary rule; your members will help with enforcement if they're familiar with the alternative.
Moar online community moderation thread!
A browse through reddit's "hobbydrama" forum often yields cautionary tales that can illustrate What Not To Do, and here's a good write-up of Neopets' infiltration by NFT scammers:
https://old.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/pzmcy2/pet_site_game_neopets_introduces_nfts_burns/
The bit that caught my eye, the bit that made me think this belongs in the moderation thread rather than web3isgoinggreat or wherever, is the language the scammers use.
In this writeup we see Neopets invaded by NFTrolls who have spent so much time sniffing their own farts that it doesn't occur to them to code-switch; they chuck around 4chan words like "oldf**" thinking this is just how people talk.
Unmoderated, anonymous websites (here I say "anonymous" to mean places where you don't have strong visual differentiation between users) ruin your brain.
(NFTs destroy communities too, but y'all already knew that)
In places where the users are difficult to tell apart, and especially in places that attach numeric scores to socialization, people end up talking the same way. Heck, go browse that subreddit I just linked to, ordered by top; the posts all have the same rhythm, same style, same slang, even though they were written by allegedly different people.
Imagine a party full of people who are so close they talk alike, but aren't friends and don't actually know each other. WEIRD AND SCARY.
This is of course deliberate!
Everyone here knows that spyware companies invest billions into improving their programs to better spy on people and try to predict what people are gonna want to buy. Most people here know that targeted advertising doesn't actually work and it's all just a long con, but the folk who work at spyware companies like google and facebook etc have been - YES! - sniffing their own farts for so long that they're starting to honestly believe their own nonsense!
So when you've chucked billions towards paying some brogrammers to try and predict the behaviour of individual humans and still the best your program can do is show them adverts for a toothbrush they bought last week, if you're particularly sociopathic you might look at the other side of the equation:
Your program might give accurate guesses more often if the people it was spying on were easier to predict.
That's where we're at now: spyware companies have, after decades of trying, finally invented a square-shaped hole, and realised that it'd take many further billions to make that hole sufficiently people-shaped to actually work; now they reason it's cheaper to make a bigger hammer.
Hence facebook's reaction emojis; it's WAY easier to have the product choose from five emotional reactions than to try and parse emotion from a textual comment.
This is why I'll keep circling back to how important it is to allow your users to differentiate themselves visually. Let them upload avatars, change their text colour, choose from different CSS for their profile pages. This fights the homogeneity that spyware companies crave so much, and since so much of people's interactions with computers these days is through spyware, it'll feel to your users like a breath of fresh air.
https://rixx.de/blog/on-running-a-mastodon-instance/
Adding on to my massive long online-community-management thread: Here's a great post from the admin of chaos.social on his experiences running a Mastodon instance along with @leah. There's overlap with running any kind of online community, but federated stuff has its own specific quirks that @rixx highlights nicely in this blog post. A worthwhile read if you're thinking of setting up a Mastodon server or any online space.
Another addition to the online community moderation thread, in which @eldang, a retired Fediverse mod, tells their story:
https://weirder.earth/@eldang/108211095983989977
https://weirder.earth/@eldang/108211095983989977
Eldan Goldenberg (@[email protected])
Content warning: Moderation philosophy, from a retired mod
Meta bit in this thread: Elon Musk just bought twitter, so we may be about to witness what happens when a formerly-badly-moderated site deliberately turns off moderation.
We've seen this before loads of times, and it's predictable - the site fills up with toxic people who scare off first the normies and then each other and it collapses in on itself within months. But I don't believe we've ever seen it happen with a website as big as twitter. This is gonna be fascinating/horrifying to watch.
Andre C.@ifixcoinops This is me watching it collapse