David RevoyDo not buy NFT made with my art.
Do not make NFT with my Creative-Commons artworks.
If you respect my art, remember and apply this.
Here is my article about what just happened: https://www.davidrevoy.com/article864/dream-cats-nfts-don-t-buy-them
Urusan@davidrevoy There goes the "NFTs are for the artists" justification out the window.
Turns out it was all about the money all along!
xj9@urusan @davidrevoy
> you are allowed to use this for commercial reasons
> but i don't want to you use this for commercial reasons in some cases
i see creative commons license doesn't actually mean you have permission to do something even though the license does grant it. i understand the objections to minting NFTs, but it might have helped to telegraph that actually commercial uses are not allowed. seems like more of a communication issue. author has objection to NFT that isn't communicated until after they exist. NFT dealer *should* respect the authors wishes though, even if it was unclear to start with.
> you are allowed to use this for commercial reasons
> but i don't want to you use this for commercial reasons in some cases
i see creative commons license doesn't actually mean you have permission to do something even though the license does grant it. i understand the objections to minting NFTs, but it might have helped to telegraph that actually commercial uses are not allowed. seems like more of a communication issue. author has objection to NFT that isn't communicated until after they exist. NFT dealer *should* respect the authors wishes though, even if it was unclear to start with.
@xj9 @davidrevoy What the NFT dealer did was legal.
However, simply jumping on this commercial opportunity shows a profound disinterest in the artist.
Oh hey, there's some untapped money, let's jump on that!
It's all about the money.
Benjamin Jones@urusan @xj9 @davidrevoy honestly how can we fault someone for trying to make money here. The whole point of CC is that people can use the art for whatever purpose (within certain constraints that are clearly stated). If the original artist truly has an issue with how their art will be used, why not be clear about it before? (Either with their choice of license or otherwise)
@benjaminpaikjones @urusan @xj9 Hey Benjamin, I get your point. And if it was a baker, selling 10K cookies with CC-By catavatar and making 10K$, I would be fine and happy with it.
The problem here is the NFT.
NFT creators knows all NFTs divides community for ethical reasons. A 10K item deployment is not a little thing.
Before this attempt, I already had three other attempt from various coders; they emailed me the project (because it was large scale, has NFT) and I could gently reject.
@davidrevoy @urusan @xj9 I guess I just don't understand why you slap a permissive license on something you care deeply about.
I write a bit of open source code, and whenever I put something under an open source license, then it may be used even for purposes I find morally reprehensible.
Expecting downstream creators* to respect your (**unstated**) wishes after they have put some work into their project seems crude...
*not saying ROPLAK is a great artist, but they did put some non-zero work into making something that is apparently worth 10k to somebody 😂
clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛@benjaminpaikjones @davidrevoy @urusan @xj9 It's not dumb, it's just a matter of using a kind word instead of using a kind word and a gun.