Has AA helped some people, sure absolutely. But, call me a stickler, im very much not a fan of a program for overcoming addiction categorically claiming that anyone who the program doesnt work for just had something inherently sick and wrong about how they were born.

Maybe your Christian Group Huddle just isnt a one size fits all solution, dumbasses.

“Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path. Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this simple program, usually men and women who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. There are such unfortunates. They are not at fault; they seem to have been born that way.”

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@swiff plenty of more "scientific" paradigms for treatment have similar axiomatic nonsense at the bedrock. Look up ABA - a "treatment" for Autism that is still the primary in the West - and quotes from the founder if you want to make your skin crawl.

Psychology studies are mostly observational - expose people to a modality, track their success. It is hard to disprove psychological theories.

@swiff Hell, CBT, Family Systems Therapy, and Existential Therapy - 3 modalities of therapy taught and used widely - have entirely different core theories about the mind. All constructed basically the same way as AA.

Someone thought a lot, read books, and constructed a theory of the mind, and derived a solution from that theory.

@swiff We do not have the fidelity of imaging to disprove any of them, only observe their relative effectiveness.

All this to say I agree AA sucks, but if you think there is a more rationally proven model out there that has a stronger basis in brain scans and tested data about neurology you will be disappointed.