Nyeogmiconsidering making a general rule of leaving any website that has a warning/strike system
or maybe sticking around but immediately giving up on the idea of mods ever getting anything done
Cay!@bat you're tellin' me!
@caymanwent weird on that: zythyx actually gave me explicit permission to dunk as long as my dunkpost isn't a TOS violation on racism etc
which i'm relieved about! (i outright asked and he said "yeah we have your back")
@bat funny because that user seems to be the one evangelizing the whole "report to the mods, so we can analyze and debate to conclude among us if this user is a fashy bad actor" shtick instead of doing something about it.
@caymanwent yeah i directly pmed them a request to change the strike system and they said they'd bring it up, i assume that went nowhere or they didn't
@caymanwent BTW: my opinions on strike systems -- i've exposited them many times on FLO, but here they are now for posterity
- mods love ticking boxes. ticking boxes makes you feel like you have a codified role and makes you highly visible.
- mods love modchat arguments. you get to hang with your bros and be parental and snippy about users.
- it turns out if you increase the number of boxes to check and procedural steps to complete, you can be even more visible and important.
- wheeee?
@bat huh, I see parallels here, especially in that second section.
@caymanwent i think a big part of the draw of strike systems is that once someone is known to be a problem person, you can spectate them and not feel guilty about it (because like, you'll ban them _eventually_ after a few more warnings and stuff)
btw other stuff: combvro implied in another thread that they see themselves as a junior mod (less seniority etc) which makes me think "oh ok the senior mods are putting off the idea that they're running the show"
@bat hmmmm! that sounds familiar.
@bat also the fact that I keep seeing staff in threads saying "we have POC on staff, so we must be doing something right!" while not actually addressing the issues because everything has to be a "system" really pisses me off.
@caymanwent yeah i'm bugged. it's good to have some people on staff who aren't white! every website should!
i think people who aren't white are apparently susceptible to the same wacko organizational problems people who are white are susceptible to -- i don't think this is myopia. they're definitely loudly expressing "we intended to do X, but a bureaucracy happened so we decided not to for a week instead."
@bat yeah that's my issue there (and here). They want to have an organized structure of bureaucracy and have their users all subscribe to it (under penalty of being warned for punching back) instead of solving the issue.
@bat every thread I see that's about "how conservative furs are a threat" gives me hope, and it's a shame that mods hop in with a tutting "now now, don't be mean to the people who disagree with you," deal.
@bat glad to see FLO mods still have no idea what they're doing.