garfieldjokes about how all men are evil and all women are virtuous are pretty much on the same level as jokes about dumb broads were 30 years ago
im bisexual which means it takes every woman and zac efron to screw in a light bulb
many people have said this before but "men are trash" is absolutely just the 2010s version of "boys will be boys"
people have often commented on the phenomenon of viral tweets in which women complain about men being bad at sex in ways which would be easily prevented by basic communication. It seems obvious to me that the function of these tweets is to enforce heterosexuality, and the gender stereotypes that come with it
Sara Ahmed has compared heterosexuality to a comfortable, weathered armchair. It functions in this way for straight women just as much as it does for straight men. Counterintuitively, straight women are invested in the notion that their partners are bad at sex, because it reinforces heterosexuality, the comfortable armchair in which their lifestyle and worldview have settled
Mads "Classic" Viande@garfiald straight women tell me all the time about problems they have with their husbands not doing incredibly basic shit, in tones of endearment, and then they'll also be like "oh my husband can't learn so you need to be patient with him" and then I yell at their husband once and he shapes up 🤔
NFL draft dodger@Manurweibling @garfiald also straight husbands and long term partners love to play dumb and act like they can't do shit like use a broom or intentionally do a bad job so they won't be asked to do it again
@georgespolitzer mutually reinforcing habits of mediocrity and helplessness
@Manurweibling parks and rec did not age well but season one rashida jones had a line about then character's bf Chris pratt about how it was exhausting being his mother, nurse, maid, and girlfriend all at once that was good
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🇵🇸🕊️@garfiald I don't really want to argue because what you're saying is right – there's no essential anything about manhood, men aren't inherently trash or anything else, and treating them like they're Just Bad and can't learn reinforces heteropatriarchy.
um. men are still trash. ime a disturbing number of men have learned trash behavior, and it's genuinely hard as a woman to argue with a stubborn man and get him to stop treating you & your friends like shit.
@rosetree I think that's fair
@garfiald and for a handful of men, trash is an understatement. the dynamic you're describing, where straight women will excuse and enable their partners, can escalate to something that's absolutely dangerous to the woman. I've had my heart broken trying to get women I know to leave men who were terrorizing & physically abusing them. relatives who wouldn't throw out a man who was abusing their daughters. it's deeply and truly fucked.
@garfiald and I don't know what to do with that? you're right, it's toxic femininity making excuses for violence and oppression. women who are complacent in that, I don't know how to make them unlearn it. but complacent or not, they're still the victim there. idk, I'm rambling. all I wanted to say is this situation is fucked up.
@rosetree I agree and im grateful that you've shared your thoughts
maya ⛓️@rosetree @garfiald seems extra tricky because what one woman may come to as "a whole bunch of people's learned gendered behavior means I am not treated with the respect I deserve" can be heard by another as "all I should expect from half of the population is mistreatment because that's fundamentally normal and the way things are"
the prince of dankness@garfiald queering heterosexuality by telling my partner to do things i like
@garfiald i am becoming increasingly angry at how true this is as it tumbles around in my mind
@dankwraith @garfiald I am so glad no one used twitter when I was an idiot teenager so I wouldn't be the subject of a viral post breakup tweet about my chump dick
@dankwraith I apologise for pissing people off with my posts yet again . i cant believe they still allow me on this site
Sylvhem@garfiald I don’t think you can honestly compare a feminist slogan like that and an idiom used to excuse misogyny.
@Sylvhem You're welcome to read the other posts in my thread for context.
I have no intention of presenting the two statements as equal, they are not. However, they are comparable, because they both essentialise gender. They both naturalise the idea that men are inherently bad in certain ways, and this idea itself fits within patriarchal ideology.
@Sylvhem I should also make clear that I am not interested in making any moralistic claims of the sort "it is bad to say X". It's absolutely fine to say "men are trash", I do so all the time. It serves a catharctic function. However, it is also fine to ask *why* we say it, and what the substance and context of the statement are. I do not think that these two activities are contradictory.
@garfiald I disagree with you here, but sadly I don’t have the energy required to debate this right now ^^'.
(inactive)@garfiald there are too many people who still think men can do no wrong. For instance, the pricks on Reddit who cry misandry and make themselves as well as women look pathetic through their gender policing.
@freeloader2020 thats fair enough, it certainly is context specific