dani little ponie 
@JoeMontana @KitsuneAlicia yeah? we do that already?
terfs are constantly lobbying to make us illegal. also peeking under the closed doors of bathroom stalls to make sure we aren't there
Joe Montana@00dani
Like I said in the reply to the initial post (which was removed), nobody cares what you do, nobody is trying to make you illegal, just keep away from my Children and we'll get along fine
Like I said in the reply to the initial post (which was removed), nobody cares what you do, nobody is trying to make you illegal, just keep away from my Children and we'll get along fine
@JoeMontana uh. people absolutely are trying to make us illegal. they're called terfs
and uh???? we're not a threat to your children????? what is your problem
Aster Cybercoochie 3088@JoeMontana @00dani "I don't want trans people near my children because I think that they somehow have a higher risk of injuring them for some tooooootally unbigoted, non-evidential reason"
Do you also keep cis men away from your children? Statistically they're far more likely to attack your children than literally any trans person
Do you also keep cis men away from your children? Statistically they're far more likely to attack your children than literally any trans person
@alexandria @00dani
I don't want anyone to sexualize my children, ever, that includes anyone for the gay, bi, straight, trans, whatever.
I can't help it if people can't see past their own world.
I don't want anyone to sexualize my children, ever, that includes anyone for the gay, bi, straight, trans, whatever.
I can't help it if people can't see past their own world.
@JoeMontana @alexandria gay and trans people existing does not "sexualise [your] children"
@00dani @alexandria
Your not getting anything I'm saying, all you see is you winning an argument. Its not because gay and trans people exist, its because SOME people of Every identity want to harm children, and that's not cool with me. Is it cool with you?
Did you know that the 60 million people got killed under Mao's reign?
He's the same one the OP was quoting in the first post
@JoeMontana @alexandria so do you make a point of telling cishets to stay away from your kids as well? or do you reserve that judgement for us queers
@JoeMontana @00dani I already stated that child abuse is not cool with me, if you had _read_ my _post_, you would have read the words where I said that.
I don't see how those numbers are relevant, since people who have done all kinds of things, have had good and bad ideas. Hitler was a vegetarian, should we condemn all vegetarians? No. The idea "if you know nothing about a subject, you shouldn't talk as if you do, or speak on it at all until you know something, since whatever you will say will be nonsensical to those who know more about it", do you disagree?
Also, you didn't answer any of my points whatsoever, congratulations on that amazing act of weaselling.
I don't see how those numbers are relevant, since people who have done all kinds of things, have had good and bad ideas. Hitler was a vegetarian, should we condemn all vegetarians? No. The idea "if you know nothing about a subject, you shouldn't talk as if you do, or speak on it at all until you know something, since whatever you will say will be nonsensical to those who know more about it", do you disagree?
Also, you didn't answer any of my points whatsoever, congratulations on that amazing act of weaselling.
@JoeMontana @00dani Oh, I missed this:
You are the one here who has repeatedly brought up child abuse, in a context where it was not present, are you obsessed with the idea? You said you don't want trans people around your children, when you _could_ have said "I am fine with trans people, I don't want sexual abusers around my children". You instantly implicitly equate trans people to sexual abusers without a second thought.
Thus, I reiterate: Statistically your children are more likely to be abused by cis men, do you not want your children to be around cis men, as well?
You are the one here who has repeatedly brought up child abuse, in a context where it was not present, are you obsessed with the idea? You said you don't want trans people around your children, when you _could_ have said "I am fine with trans people, I don't want sexual abusers around my children". You instantly implicitly equate trans people to sexual abusers without a second thought.
Thus, I reiterate: Statistically your children are more likely to be abused by cis men, do you not want your children to be around cis men, as well?
@alexandria @00dani Numbers not relevant? Hitler killed over 12 million people, Mao killed 60 million, are you going to stick up for Stalin next? Are you a national socialist?
@JoeMontana @00dani I thought you didn't want to engage with me?
The point really flew right over your head didn't it? Read it again.
The point really flew right over your head didn't it? Read it again.
@JoeMontana @00dani
Me: hey maybe what someone did or didn't do isn't relevant to a specific idea we are critiquing. Bad and Good people can have good and bad ideas. Hitler was a vegetarian, we shouldn't bring Hitler up every single time we talk about vegetarianism, right?
TERF: Are you ignoring Mao's death count!!!!111111!1 DO YOU WORSHIP STALIN???????/////
Like do you not understand basic analogy or what. how high are you right now, seriously.
Me: hey maybe what someone did or didn't do isn't relevant to a specific idea we are critiquing. Bad and Good people can have good and bad ideas. Hitler was a vegetarian, we shouldn't bring Hitler up every single time we talk about vegetarianism, right?
TERF: Are you ignoring Mao's death count!!!!111111!1 DO YOU WORSHIP STALIN???????/////
Like do you not understand basic analogy or what. how high are you right now, seriously.
@JoeMontana @00dani I mean, I don't want anyone to sexualize children either? My joke/jab was that based on what you've said _you_ very likely see pride, and gay people in general, as people that sexualize children?
Do you not see how saying "nobody cares what you do, nobody is trying to make you illegal, just keep away from my Children and we'll get along fine" to someone talking about trans rights (NOT the right to sexualize children) gets interpreted as being blatantly hostile to trans people?
You're the one presuming here that trans people want to sexualize children lmao
Do you not see how saying "nobody cares what you do, nobody is trying to make you illegal, just keep away from my Children and we'll get along fine" to someone talking about trans rights (NOT the right to sexualize children) gets interpreted as being blatantly hostile to trans people?
You're the one presuming here that trans people want to sexualize children lmao
@JoeMontana @00dani Like the way I read the thread is like this:
someone talks about trans rights and about trans women being women, pretty uncontroversially facts that have a firm scientific basis. they also state the "no investigation! no right to speak!" doctrine from Mao.
You respond with: "So by the same rules, trans people don't get to tell anyone else how they should be"
This is a non-sequitur. No trans person in this thread was telling anyone what to think, they were stating the FACT that trans women are women, the same as cis women, which is backed up by 90 years of hard science (Dating back to the hirschfeld institute, and thousands of years of human culture), and stating that people (in general) should not speak on a subject if they haven't done investigation into it.
They call you a TERF, because TERFs, in general make those kinds of non-sequiturs, they also say something about bathroom laws and trans people literally being assaulted for trying to pee, you say "is peeing in a bathroom all it is? then we'll get along fine", this is clearly phrased to imply that there is More going on, that you Do Not Approve of.
You are the one twisting other people's words into problems here that you then use to attack them, it's a fascinating psychological study, and I've only ever seen bigots doing it. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc.
I must admit, the sheer amount of weaseling and strawmanning you're doing is rather impressive so far!
someone talks about trans rights and about trans women being women, pretty uncontroversially facts that have a firm scientific basis. they also state the "no investigation! no right to speak!" doctrine from Mao.
You respond with: "So by the same rules, trans people don't get to tell anyone else how they should be"
This is a non-sequitur. No trans person in this thread was telling anyone what to think, they were stating the FACT that trans women are women, the same as cis women, which is backed up by 90 years of hard science (Dating back to the hirschfeld institute, and thousands of years of human culture), and stating that people (in general) should not speak on a subject if they haven't done investigation into it.
They call you a TERF, because TERFs, in general make those kinds of non-sequiturs, they also say something about bathroom laws and trans people literally being assaulted for trying to pee, you say "is peeing in a bathroom all it is? then we'll get along fine", this is clearly phrased to imply that there is More going on, that you Do Not Approve of.
You are the one twisting other people's words into problems here that you then use to attack them, it's a fascinating psychological study, and I've only ever seen bigots doing it. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc.
I must admit, the sheer amount of weaseling and strawmanning you're doing is rather impressive so far!
@alexandria @00dani No, your wrong from the start, that makes your follow-on statements erroneous too.
You have to twist the original replies in with your hateful tone, to make an accusation because your hate is essentially empty.
You describe your own sad behaviour while attacking me, and when people start doing that, the conversation has no further purpose.
You have to twist the original replies in with your hateful tone, to make an accusation because your hate is essentially empty.
You describe your own sad behaviour while attacking me, and when people start doing that, the conversation has no further purpose.
@JoeMontana @00dani You couldn't even give a single response, or account for your behaviour. fantastic. Enjoy the block! I will ask the admin here to block you from the entire instance, too :)