sanjayuvachaThat is NOT my car. Spotted near Gol Dakhana Delhi.
Vivek@sanjayuvacha And this is NOT my car. Spotted in Nagpur. Do people even read history?
Ranjona@ranjona @sanjayuvacha I wish to meet some of them just to know what makes them tick
@VivekT @sanjayuvacha Hmm. Better you than me. Hatred and stupidity, am guessing.
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Actually I do meet a lot of Sanghis here in Nagpur. I mean those high up in the hierarchy not just the cadre, but haven't seen any Nazi among them. This seems to be a fringe of a fringe.
Actually I do meet a lot of Sanghis here in Nagpur. I mean those high up in the hierarchy not just the cadre, but haven't seen any Nazi among them. This seems to be a fringe of a fringe.
@VivekT Possibly the young via the internet and exposure to the neo-Nazi movement?
ajithegde@ranjona @VivekT Sanghis always had a soft corner for Hitler. Most of them , unless they are very smart and know who they are talking to (and therefore control themselves), sooner or later will blurt out "what Hitler did was right". At least most lower rank Sanghis are like this.
I think they take what he did to Jews as some sort of model about what they should do to Muslims.
Sai Vishal@ajithegde True. We call them fascist and Nazi but those terms are acceptable to them. They don't see it as an insult. @ranjona @VivekT
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Most of the pride is out of ignorance or incomplete knowledge of what really happened in Nazi Germany. Of course as you say there might be some who don't give a damn.
Most of the pride is out of ignorance or incomplete knowledge of what really happened in Nazi Germany. Of course as you say there might be some who don't give a damn.
@VivekT They Know the history. Is why they are hoping for NRC. Those guys are scary. The other ignorant ones justify using Bose. Because he has met Hitler it somehow makes it alright to follow them. @ajithegde @ranjona
@Vishsai @ajithegde @ranjona When i said they know partial history I meant they choose to ignore what happened to Hitler and Nazis. Do you think the rest world will be a silent spectator as the communal stakes are raised in India?
Shinjini | Modern Gypsy@VivekT The rest of the world is anyway silent - economic interests, apparently. They mainly spoke up on the lynchings and Kashmir. And despite the bad press, Supreme Leader is warmly welcomed everywhere. 🤷♀️
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@shinjini @Vishsai @ajithegde @ranjona
Agreed. Initially even Hitler was welcomed by most of the leaders.
Times have changed as far as dissemination of information is concerned. There cannot be pogroms without the world knowing the next day. The situation is not ideal but it is not hopeless either.
Agreed. Initially even Hitler was welcomed by most of the leaders.
Times have changed as far as dissemination of information is concerned. There cannot be pogroms without the world knowing the next day. The situation is not ideal but it is not hopeless either.
@VivekT I’m not that optimistic. I see atrocities happening the world over. And no one is doing anything about them. Look at the Rohingya crisis, as an example. Or the refugee crisis from Syria, when it was happening. Most countries would rather send them back to Syria to die than allow them into their borders.
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Point taken. Just go back in time a few decades and imagine yourself a citizen of the erstwhile Soviet state. Similar atrocities were happening there and the Ukrainians, Latvians, Belarusians et al were wondering whether they would die under the Russian yoke. One fine day, suddenly they all were liberated.
History is full of such events.That is my source of optimism
Point taken. Just go back in time a few decades and imagine yourself a citizen of the erstwhile Soviet state. Similar atrocities were happening there and the Ukrainians, Latvians, Belarusians et al were wondering whether they would die under the Russian yoke. One fine day, suddenly they all were liberated.
History is full of such events.That is my source of optimism
Muthu@VivekT @shinjini @Vishsai @ajithegde @ranjona We are at a similar point here now, one nation, one religion (as opposed to the enforced atheism there), one language. But, unlike with the USSR, can the Union of Hindu-Hindi States survive the time taken to get a Gorbachev?
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But, unlike with the USSR, can the Union of Hindu-Hindi States survive the time taken to get a Gorbachev?
Gorbachev took about 70 years to happen. I doubt this Union will last that long.
But, unlike with the USSR, can the Union of Hindu-Hindi States survive the time taken to get a Gorbachev?
Gorbachev took about 70 years to happen. I doubt this Union will last that long.
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I agree that it’s unlikely to last that long, but what is the cost of such a situation going to be — human, environmental, and monetary?
I agree that it’s unlikely to last that long, but what is the cost of such a situation going to be — human, environmental, and monetary?
Zarin@spiffyhobbes Immense. The cost has already been immense. Economically, especially, and the government is doing its best to hide and fudge data. There’s a sense of fear and alienation. The trolls are seeping into real life conversations too. I don’t know how much more we can bear.
@shinjini Re trolls seeping in real life too..I have had so many run ins with them in trains at airports even Rotary Club meetings. So yea either I take Sanyas and go to the Andes (Can't go to the Himalayas as Sanghis are there too) or fight back.
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