Luci Rockslike, what really irritates me most about linux is the casual expectation that it’s okay to require the terminal to do certain things. until someone is willing to build a UI that does a full mac classic style lockdown of everything, and make it just work without needing to configure it, linux is not taking general appeal seriously.
i am not gonna set up my dad with linux if I have to walk him through compiling a kernel module or editing the x11 configuration file with vim over the phone.
unspeakablehorror (Reinstated)@zensaiyuki I mean, there's room for improvement in linux uis, but I don't recall ever doing any of those things on my home linux machines, and I've been using linux for well over a decade as a power user. Also there are plenty of text editors besides vim available for linux. What linux environments are you familiar with?
@unspeakablehorror you must have somehow avoided the more advanced tasks such as “installing apps” or “playing a sound file”
@zensaiyuki most linux distros have a GUI install manager which I sometimes use. Though I prefer copy-pasting into the terminal to install apps, yes. I haven't had problems with sound in linux for over a decade now. I remember back in the day I had trouble with it not being set up for sound by default, but haven't had issues with that in a loooong time.
hef@unspeakablehorror @zensaiyuki
I think I'm seeing more of this in windows land too. The "Advanced feature" menus in windows seem to keep changing or getting buried further. a "copy and paste" solution is starting to seem elegant.
@hef @unspeakablehorror well, look, I don’t know what ro tell you. if you can’t see the problems they’ll never get fixed.
@zensaiyuki @hef No, I agree. It would be better if using the GUI package manager was possible for every install. I was just saying that I haven't had problems with sound and even moderately user-friendly distros don't push vim as the default text-editor.