like, what really irritates me most about linux is the casual expectation that it’s okay to require the terminal to do certain things. until someone is willing to build a UI that does a full mac classic style lockdown of everything, and make it just work without needing to configure it, linux is not taking general appeal seriously.
i am not gonna set up my dad with linux if I have to walk him through compiling a kernel module or editing the x11 configuration file with vim over the phone.
@zensaiyuki I mean, there's room for improvement in linux uis, but I don't recall ever doing any of those things on my home linux machines, and I've been using linux for well over a decade as a power user. Also there are plenty of text editors besides vim available for linux. What linux environments are you familiar with?
@unspeakablehorror you must have somehow avoided the more advanced tasks such as “installing apps” or “playing a sound file”
@unspeakablehorror i have not encountered a version of linux that does not require the terminal for basic setup, and I usualy stick to the versions that are supposed to be “easy”
@unspeakablehorror so, y’know, i have to wknder if you’re lying or somehow don’t remember using the terminal
@zensaiyuki you mentioned installing a driver and using vim to edit a file. Was just responding to those statements. Yes, I use the terminal all the time.