i find it strange whene people try to repurpose the mary sue concept as like "it wasnt always misogynistic" when the protagonist being inexplicably amazing at everything is the biggest trope in western storytelling
@garfiald the Mary Sue concept is because those writers were having their protagonists be exceptional in the wrong ways (unconventionally attractive, friends with everyone, creative, solves problems with lateral thinking) instead of the correct one (grizzled, barely tolerated, single-minded, solves every problem with a sword or a gun)