nihil admirarivirtue signaling is real, and you should be wary of those within Our Movement who do it. denying that it exists because right wingers have learned the phrase is really stupid and opens us up to being co-opted by psychos like, say, the children of hedge fund managers who live in penthouses and vote/donate to the democratic party and actively stifle progressive activism by having tantrums.
It's really funny that despite being the side of "over educated over sensitive millenials" or whatever the Left is supposed to be these days, we fall really easily for incredibly basic rhetorical tricks like "if the other side uses a word or phrase, it is immediately wrong and bad even if it describes a real problem." if steve bannon started saying "i am a communist" at least 10% of leftists would start saying "thats a dogwhistle. saying youre communist is a racist dogwhistle"
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point taken, and you're not wrong or anything, but i'm just laughing because i remember the time steve bannon called himself a "leninist."
point taken, and you're not wrong or anything, but i'm just laughing because i remember the time steve bannon called himself a "leninist."
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oh and aparently you mentioned this in the comments of the first toot. anyhow, carry on.
oh and aparently you mentioned this in the comments of the first toot. anyhow, carry on.
@thereddishgreens that was incredibly funny to me lol. i read an article about rupert murdoch ages ago that mentioned he had a bust of lenin (or marx, cant remember) in his office or house for many years
sam@lunch I mean I think it gets used by people on the left, too, who want to argue that all their critics are acting in bad faith, or just signalling virtue, as opposed to engaging for substantive reasons. I think the trouble with the phrase is like.... actually taking any kind of ethical stance in public is inherently virtue signalling, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. trouble is when what someone is signalling is counter to what they actually believe or do (which I think you're getting at).
@mardiroos that is indeed what I am getting at. My point is that it is a neutral term and you need to look at the context in which it is being used before you accuse someone of doing fascist dogwhistles
@lunch yup. for sure. it's a descriptor, and not necessarily of a bad thing, it's not like "degenerate" or something along those lines.
@mardiroos Exactly.
Phat Ass White Grandpa@lunch do you think virtue signalling and woke posturing is the same thing? because i mostly see leftists using the phrase “woke posturing”
@grandpawg woke posturing is the same thing, yes, but saying it in a way that loads it with value ahead of time rather than later on
im the hell dude
@lunch I've said this in private but was always too cowardly to say it publicly so thanks - virtue signalling is 100% a thing
@helldude I don't have to worry about thousands of people screaming that I betrayed them by holding different opinions so it's less brave of me to say it. Keep it real rich
ted knszky@lunch i would love for thousands of people to scream at you lunch
@naturefan be the change you want to see in the world much, my bitch?
@lunch im going to my dsa meeting to cancel you right now
@naturefan they have a DSA chapter at the zoo?
@lunch no they do have one at the authentic caveman experience tho
@naturefan a DSA for neanderthals
@lunch yeah otherwise known as DSA ukrainan caucus
HA I CLAPPED BACK
@naturefan that's right. The originators of socialism.
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altglo knzksaw@lunch Jesus thank you for saying this. I hate to admit that 4chan chuds are ever right about anything, but I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day. Virtue signaling is definitely a thing and if more people understood that I think we'd be a lot farther along than we are today