Me:
this gets thrown around now and then and it's always refreshing to me just how much of PITA English is about this particular issue
you can really discombobulate people sometimes if you're willing to get weird and violate a few elements of that order in some way, lemme tell you what
(also, technically IIRC it's more 'quantity opinion size temperature age shape color origin material purpose noun', but who wants to talk about TWO lovely little ROOM-TEMPERATURE old rectangular green French silver whittling knives)
@sydneyfalk @ConfusedImp
…but I felt it like something natural, intuitively! With no need to learn any rules!
It should be mensioned, English is not my native tongue, though I started to study it when I was 7.
I did some research and apparently this is (to some degree) present in other languages, so maybe that's why?
I had assumed it was "an English thing", and now I have to apologize to the whole language. (It's gonna take me a while. -_- )
@sydneyfalk @ConfusedImp 'why'… it's a real question. This is not a simple coincidence…
In [many] Roman languages, and some Slavic ones, I know, adjectives stand after nouns, but order of the first may also be the same. I'm not a Romanist to say it's true, I am even not a linguist at all. 'Just kidding since being a kid'.
…A mystery of human intellect, indeed, I consider 😃
I looked at it as utility vs. expectation -- things that aren't dangerous unless they have certain adjectives (an *angry* neighbor versus a neighbor) encouraged putting some of them first, then categorization started shaking all the different possibilities out, etc. etc.
I think it's somewhat *different* in other languages, which might support this theory -- if a language was cooked in a radically different culture, shape might be way more vital than size, etc.
@sydneyfalk @ConfusedImp
*dangerous* before all another... *More valuable* for our's being before less valuable...
We usually remember best the beginnings and the endings... Emotional attitude help us to keep smth in memory better, too. #memory_technique
It seems to be tied one to another. That might be the common for all languages, despite all possible differences between cultures. So, we seem to have found two borders of construction of natural languages' syntax.
And sometimes in real life even we change that usual word order to pay smbd's attention to the most significant for the certain moment. :-) Oftenly accenting the words by intonation.