Joseph KaminskiNot really understanding Mastodon at this point. It claimed to be anti-harassment, yet I've seen some horrifying messages about McCain and his family since he died. It claimed to be an alternative to Twitter, yet every damn message I see on the timelines say "birdsite" (why mention what you're supposedly trying to get away from?). I really don't see purpose of the site if its foundation is compromised/contradicted by its general users. @Gargron
@Gargron The Wil Wheaton drama coupled with the hoards of John McCain "shitposting" (honestly some of the rudest messages I've ever seen on social media) really turned me off from the so-called good qualities this website offered. Corporatized Twitter sucks, but mob-fueled digitized verbal lynching is not a proper or coherent rival. Maybe social media in general needs revitalization and not half-hearted attempts at becoming the "next big thing" in the short attention span of the internet.
@Gargron To summarize, the site has evolved from a good-natured alternative into a "you're either with us or fuck you" social club that seems to exist solely to make fun of those who don't agree, constantly bring up "the problems" with "birdsite", and circlejerk pointless information for the rip-off "toots" that rarely exist as the site is split off into different sub-communities that do not seem to interact - yet all serve the same purpose.
@Gargron Also - basic sociology - when too many categories are created, those categories become worthless. The overuse of content warnings on this site break the overall flow of the timelines and creates a terrible situation where "if everything is content warning'd, then nothing is content warning'd at all."
Eugen Rochko@josephkaminski I'm not sure why you're tagging me personally like I am in control of every single being on this platform, but all of your complaints are solved by following different people. Just find yourself people who love McCain and hate content warnings. Probably on a less left-leaning server than mine.
@Gargron Still not sure exactly how tagging works. Was simply replying in a thread format. The problem doesn't rely on a following issue. You cannot deny the majority of the server broke from what the site claims to exist for. It's less complaining and more genuine concern/confusion for what the hell is supposed to be the figurative "norm" here.
Chris (moving to jade.moe)@josephkaminski @Gargron I'll be straight with you: the fediverse doesn't have a "norm". Rather, there is a massive federation of communities with different rules and ways of interacting, with there being a few baseline things people have agreed upon. Yet within that there are some outliers, like mastodon.social, which due to it's nature as where people first migrate becomes a spot where people need to learn how to interact on the platform and the size facilitates a vast diversity in behaviors.
There are also sectors of the fediverse that throw out the baseline in favor of their own thing - and they tend to federate among themselves.
Some of these instance do engage in harassment tactics, but that's not something on the whole federation - just those servers.
There are also sectors of the fediverse that throw out the baseline in favor of their own thing - and they tend to federate among themselves.
Some of these instance do engage in harassment tactics, but that's not something on the whole federation - just those servers.
@brainblasted The problem now, in my mind, is that the so-called flagship operation (if it is the one where most people first migrate, then it must be the most known/most acceptable) is more toxic than the site it claims to be the alternative to. I don't understand the concept at that point. I feel as if I have to continuously apologize in this thread for writing my thoughts, which I've never had to do anywhere else, honestly.
@josephkaminski you're thinking about it in a different PoV than how it works.
m.s is the flagship because it was the biggest, and is just the one people hear about. Articles mistakenly link it because it's the one they are likely linked in discussions, and due to every other platform being centralized mastodon.social has been mistakenly equated with "Mastodon". It has very little to do with what's acceptable. In fact, m.s is largely recognized in greater fedi as one of the worst instances to be on due to the pains of it being the largest.
Greater fedi can be much nicer than m.s, but m.s is what people first know - it's a frustrating paradox due to the inherent differences from common platforms.
m.s is the flagship because it was the biggest, and is just the one people hear about. Articles mistakenly link it because it's the one they are likely linked in discussions, and due to every other platform being centralized mastodon.social has been mistakenly equated with "Mastodon". It has very little to do with what's acceptable. In fact, m.s is largely recognized in greater fedi as one of the worst instances to be on due to the pains of it being the largest.
Greater fedi can be much nicer than m.s, but m.s is what people first know - it's a frustrating paradox due to the inherent differences from common platforms.
@brainblasted I appreciate your response as it not only explains what I've been concerned/frustrated with but also offers information besides "go away" like Eugen did. I keep apologizing, and I hope it is realized that I mean it.