Lj.rbIs Ruby IDE still heresy to ask for?
Lyosha Lopatin@ljgww_rb Rubymine may be?
@Lyosha I love JetBrains tools. They are magnificent. The price is the problem. I find it expensive.
James Adam@james @ljgww_rb My coworkers use Rubimine and have very good opinion about it. But some of them use vscode with additions and customized spacemacs me included. A lot of nice ide-features for ruby development already implemented in spacemacs. If you looking for completely free ide-experience for ruby development, i think, spacemacs could be suitable for you. Learning curve is quite steep but rewarding.
@Lyosha @ljgww_rb I’ve been using #spacemacs for around a year now, pretty happy with it. I’ve written my own testing layer to take advantage of Rails’ test runner.
@james @Lyosha Never heard of spacemacs (in one moment thought this is related to MacOSX). Then I realized this is another construction. Then I understood this is kind of variant of Emacs editor (which I have extremely little experience with, used it perhaps once of twice between 20 and 30 years ago probably on Irix or HP and never caught on). So I decided to give it a try.
On my U14 box there is no native version that would work so I undertaking trickiest path - building from scratch.
On my U14 box there is no native version that would work so I undertaking trickiest path - building from scratch.
@Lyosha @james I am quite OK with VSCode too - its not really IDE but it is very close for some functions (e.g. syntax highlight, git ops, running the code). VScode runs on two systems that I currently use the most (Win and Lin). I sweared to myself around 2012 that I will successfully ignore Macs in spite that I happily used them for good 2 decades. I amnog giving them a dime more.
If VSCode continue to be friendly as it currently is, it may suck in all significant development.
If VSCode continue to be friendly as it currently is, it may suck in all significant development.
@ljgww_rb was there a failure message?
@james yea some components that are installed later failed. And overall it gives feeling of half working.
@james components run at startup (within emacs)
@james seems that I managed to install it with no errors (worked out differently, so cannot be 100% sure is working as expected). But what I got at the end is 100% unintuitive for me - still suspecting something may be wrong.
@james on restart. Nope. It does not work. Reports same errors on startup.
Some components seem to require Emacs v25 (i installed 24.5.1 according to documentation v24 shall work).
I will try to remove it.
Just read your message. Vim is not editor of my choice, I know to go around it for some 3 decades but I use it only if I must.
Some components seem to require Emacs v25 (i installed 24.5.1 according to documentation v24 shall work).
I will try to remove it.
Just read your message. Vim is not editor of my choice, I know to go around it for some 3 decades but I use it only if I must.
@james I am giving up for tonight. Will try to go one version up and see again if I manage to make it working.
Thank you for being there.
Thank you for being there.
@ljgww_rb @james Try to go through installation process precisely as it describe in readme in spacemacs github. I had problems with installation first time too. As you mentioned that vim is not your cup of tea - don't check evil-mode in the beginning when spacemacs start first time. If you send me dm with your email - I'll send you good book about emacs to begin with. Regarding errors - you definitely should try last emacs version: https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs/issues/10983
@Lyosha @james Installed emacs 25.3.1 and then spacemacs configuration. Everything seems working except that it complains about font (SourceCodePro) not being available. Provided link leads to a github that provides a font that can be installed, I installed and works in other editors except in spacemacs - reason - font has different internal name so I guess spacemacs does not see it hence complain.
First impression: It killed menu from the top. And, I have absolutely no idea how to use it.
First impression: It killed menu from the top. And, I have absolutely no idea how to use it.
@Lyosha first screen is readonly nothing happens when I type. I can switch to scratch buffer and get stuck there. I type space, it gets typed....
@ljgww_rb it looks like you are in evil mode (vim-style editing). go to .spacemacs and change line dotspacemacs-editing-style 'vim to 'emacs. it's about 119-120 or so
@Lyosha here it is
;; One of `vim', `emacs' or `hybrid'.
;; `hybrid' is like `vim' except that `insert state' is replaced by the
;; `hybrid state' with `emacs' key bindings. The value can also be a list
;; with `:variables' keyword (similar to layers). Check the editing styles
;; section of the documentation for details on available variables.
;; (default 'vim)
dotspacemacs-editing-style 'emacs
according to this I am already in emacs mode.
@Lyosha how can I bring original emacs menu on the top back (to the window)?
@ljgww_rb if so, I think it's time for some emacs tutorial or the book 😀 . some keys for starters - https://gist.github.com/robphoenix/9e4db767ab5c912fb558
about menu - https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs/issues/5508
about last question - yes, i think
@Lyosha @james Tried to find explanation around and that is not much of help. I feel exactly like I felt when I have run Lisp machine emulator - like monkey sitting in front of space shuttle control panel, randomly pressing keys and mouse and nothing happens!
But, i managed to type in scratch buffer and loaded configuration file that I can edit, but that's about it. I am lost.
At least standard EMACS is frendly enough that I could browse dirs, open files, edit them and save them.
But, i managed to type in scratch buffer and loaded configuration file that I can edit, but that's about it. I am lost.
At least standard EMACS is frendly enough that I could browse dirs, open files, edit them and save them.
@Lyosha one interesting thing is that on very first installation it had asked me which mode I want etc etc and it continued installing things. Now, that I removed old version and installed new emacs and installed spacemacs I was not asked to select mode. It just installed I do not know at least 150 modules on its own... and it worked.
Could it be that there is something else meddling into things. Shall I for example delete .spacemacs file and perhaps be asked to configure it again ?
Could it be that there is something else meddling into things. Shall I for example delete .spacemacs file and perhaps be asked to configure it again ?
@james @Lyosha "And on the same note, I think any tool that makes you more productive is worth spending money on if necessary."
Positive thinking. I agree.
However, not all activities on this world bring money. My Ruby is just an interest to see how far I will go, currently it does not bring money.
Who knows, maybe it would bring money in some distant future (as things are currently with me, its a slim chance that will bring money). Therefore, art for art, if no money - no costly tools....