Frankie SaxxAug 31, 2018
so how long until we see bots designed to attack Mastodon instances and force defederation with anonymous abuse reports, do you think?
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So, even if they use a bot, one could simply limit the ammount of complaints to 5 a day or so (let's say by IP address beacuse they're anonymous).

If anyone has more complaints than that there is obviously something bigger going on and one should contacr the admin direct

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@romanSix that doesn't solve the problem of leaving an admin with only the choice to either defederate the server the abuse is coming from or to simply put up with the bullshit waste of time though :/
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I thought the general Idea was, if another instance does not cooperate, to block the whole instance. This way admins have a big interest in cooperating with each other.
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In a similar way we do the same thing with email. If I recieve a lot of spam from a particular server and the admin doesn't react to my complaints this host gets blacklisted.
Show threadFrankie SaxxAug 31, 2018
@romanSix that's exactly my point. Individuals can use anonymous abuse reporting to spam other servers and ultimately force them to defederate.
Show threadFrankie SaxxAug 31, 2018
@romanSix I don't think @Gargron intended either suspension or abuse handling tools to be used to coerce admins of other servers
Show threadFrankie SaxxAug 31, 2018
@romanSix ah, I think I misunderstood that post a little bit. Yes, I agree that defederation is an appropriate tool to handle hostile or poorly run servers. I don't think that's coercion though.