Dudes, I cannot stress this enough.

Sometimes you just gotta shut the fuck up and listen. Even when you don't want to. Even when it hurts. We are conditioned to dismiss the valid concerns of women because we are conditioned to be sexists. Yes, even I am guilty of this.

Go in the other direction. If you don't like hearing 'men are trash', prove you aren't with your actions.

Be better, try harder. Put some effort into being a decent person and a whole new world will open to you.

@Are0h
"Put some effort into being a decent person"

Everyone, yes. Please ๐Ÿ‘Œ

@Are0h Hardest thing I had to learn: if a woman is willing to tell you in conversation that men are trash, it means that she thinks you're not trash, or that you're salvageable.

Don't prove her wrong by cutting her off and insisting "not me," which is exactly the same as "not all men."

Listen for a few, and you'll be able to contribute something or offer support.

@mwlucas @Are0h This goes forโ€ฆa lot of things, really.

If someone really thinks it's a lost cause, they wouldn't be engaging with you at all.

@mwlucas
@Are0h
This is something I've never thought about, but I think it's true? It's exactly the opposite of "you're not like other girls"
@mwlucas @Are0h Speaking purely as someone on the autism spectrum, I feel like there's a lot of neurotypical normativity in that expectation. That's a lot of emotional labor being expected of others to interpret and disambiguate people's venting from their anger. I'll spend the energy to do that work for people I know well. As social distance increases, though, both my willingness and my ability to perform that interpretation degrades rapidly.
@mwlucas @Are0h I can't control how other people choose to speak. I can only control how I engage. Speaking personally, dealing with that kind of language from people I don't know well is sufficiently stressful that I'm emotionally better off disengaging from people who talk that way. I have enough difficulty interpreting the emotional contexts of others. I don't need to stay connected to people who won't recognize or respect the cognitive load they're putting on me.

@mwlucas

@Are0h

So, in the moment, I would agree. However, as a matter of principal, why is it acceptable to say "men are trash" but not basically any other group.

Like, if someone said to me that they just "dont like Hispanics", I would definitely shout that down. Same for "women are trash".

So outside of a context where someone was just dumped, or some other aggravating factor, why is it acceptable?

@Are0h addendum: don't limit this to yourself and use peer pressure to make people better instead of worse
@Are0h Yeah, you can go and put that one on the same pile of horse shit as "you're not the same as the other muslims" and other generalisations. Demanding decent behavior or listening is one thing, being guilty until proven innocent is something else.

@mchollander LOL, uhm, ok Random Angry White Man. Tell more about how I shouldn't view angry person spewing their hate into my time line as an angry person spewing their hate in my timeline.

Regale me.

@mchollander @Are0h welp, this shitass reply just earned you a block. Well done, my dude.
@Jen_Lee @Are0h anyone claiming "men are trash" is a valid thing to say can go right ahead and block me along with anyone throwing out generalisations on women, race, sexuality and save me the trouble, thanks

@mchollander @Jen_Lee Because the contexts concerning women, race and sexuality are all the same right?

You're probably the smart guy in your social group, huh?

@Are0h @Jen_Lee context isn't everything, and thanks for the second random assumption there. Discussing racism with the other crowd goes along these same lines, by the way. You have now assumed I am angry, something about smart which I suppose is meant to be discrediting and brought skin color into this.

@mchollander It actually is everything because, you know, history and culture are real things. Nothing happens in a vacuum.

No, it doesn't. You're comparing apples with sidewalk pavement. You're way outside of your depth.

LOL, you came at me cursing assuming you know what the I'm talking about, you don't. I don't have to assume shit. You are clearly upset.

Ha, no one said anything about your skin color, dickhead.

You're AWFUL at this. You're discrediting yourself by acting like a lunatic.

@Are0h thanks for posting this so i can add some ppls to my block list where they belong lol
@glintacp Ha, it gets like that sometimes.