A Quick Note on “Two Battles in Three Years”

Detail of an early reproduction of the Darius Mosaic in Pompeii. This is in the Hermitage Museum, St Petersburg. I doubt I will return to Russia anytime soon!

Twice in The Western Way of War (1989, my copy Oxford University Press 1990) Victor Davis Hanson makes similar statements:

In the fifth and fourth centuries, battle broke out in the Greek world nearly two out of every three years, so the chances were good that a man would have to leave his farm, take up his arms, fight in repeated engagements, and fall wounded or die one summer’s day in battle. (p. 31)

For the citizen of the fifth-century Greek city-state who saw battle of some type on an average of two out of three years, the changes were good that he would not die a natural death: in one of those years of his long service he would likely become one of the dead or wounded (p. 89)

A moment’s thought shows that this is incorrect. Even during the Peloponnesian Wars Athens or Sparta only fought a battle every few years, and not all Athenian hoplites or Spartiates fought in every battle. Plato’s Socrates was proud to have fought in one battle, a siege, and an expedition and he was an adult during intensive warfare (Plato, Apology, 28e, Symposium 219-221).1 What could Hanson have meant by the passages above?

There is no way to know for sure where Hanson found this figure because Western Way of War was written as a trade book without footnotes or endnotes. It was originally published with Alfred A. Knopf, and only taken over by Oxford University Press when it sold well. Even though it is included on many grad-school reading lists, its not written to academic standards of evidence.

Fred Eugene Ray Jr. has found about 360 historically-attested battles involving Greeks in the fifth and fourth centuries BCE.2 While scholars in the 1980s might not have listed all of them, I doubt that Hanson had a statistic for the number of battles per year which showed less than one battle per year.

It looks to me like Hanson read (or heard in a lecture?) some statistic along the line of “Classical Athens was at war almost two years out of three.” He then started to generalize this and sharpen it. Classical Athens stood for “the fifth-century Greek city-state.” This is the Everest Fallacy, because Athens was very large, wealthy, and warlike and is the center of most surviving sources. The USA is bombing some other country almost every year, but Denmark can go decades without sending troops into combat. It would not be accurate to say that NATO countries bomb someone almost every year when just the UK, France, and Germany have wildly different experiences.

As Hanson sharpened his rhetoric, “at war” became “fighting” became “seeing battle” even though most ancient Greek warfare was raids, marching through enemy territory burning, stickups, piracy, naval battles, being let into a city by a discontented faction, and skirmishes. Battles were prestigious but not the most common form of warfare and did not involve all of a large city’s forces. This also often happens as people retell stories and quotes are reworded or assigned to more famous or ‘appropriate’ people.

Hanson never wanted to be a research academic, he wanted to be a farmer who gave talks to people in small-town California, and he only reluctantly submitted to the standards of academic writing like fact-checking and making sure that your logic holds up. In forty years he has only published a handful of traditional academic publications, most of them before 2001. He wrote The Western Way of War as a busy assistant professor with small children at home, and as he became rich and famous he never went back and revised it.

I have asked some colleagues and will update this post if we can guess which statistics about Athens being at war two years in three Hanson had read. Roel Konijnendijk has found the claim that Classical Athens was at war almost two years out of three in Yvon Garlan’s La Guerre dans l’Antiquité (Editions Fernand Nathan: Paris, 1972). For more discussion see Bret Devereaux’s original post.

Edit 2026-01-26: the exact passage is the first page of the main text of Garlan’s book (page 3 of the French edition):

Athènes, par example, durant le siècle et demi qui va des guerres médiques (490 et 480-479) à la bataille de Chéronée (338), guerroya en moyenne plus de deux ans sur trois, sans jamais jouir de la paix pendant dix ans de suite.

That Athens was at war more than two years out of three is not quite the same statement as either of the passages in WWoW, but its close enough for a busy writer writing a book without footnotes or endnotes in the days before Google Books and the ability to submit interlibrary loan requests at 11 pm from your home office.

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(scheduled 17 January 2026, updated and posted 18 January 2026)

  • It is possible that he helped suppress the Samian revolt in 440 but the single late source is not clear that his trip to Samos was a military expedition: Daniel W. Graham, “Socrates on Samos,” The Classical Quarterly, New Series, Vol. 58, No. 1 (May, 2008), pp. 308-313 ↩︎
  • Land Battles in 5th Century BC Greece: A History and Analysis of 173 Engagements and Greek and Macedonian Land Battles of the 4th Century B.C.: A History and Analysis of 187 Engagements both from McFarland. These are not academic books either but Ray worked to source his claims in ancient evidence. ↩︎
  • #ancient #bonusPost #DariusMosaic #earlyGreekWarfare #hopliteWars #methodology #SocratesTheHoplite

    Iranian Trousers for Plataea

    A glazed brick relief of feet and shins from the palace of Darius I at Susa. Musee du Louvre, Département des Antiquités orientales, number Sb 14426 c/o Achemenet http://www.achemenet.com/fr/item/?/musee-achemenide/categories-d-objets/architecture/decor-architectural/3018977

    People representing Median, Persian, or Saka soldiers at Plataea in 2021 will need trousers. Not everyone needs them: the King rules many lands full of all kinds of men, many of whom have not adopted the Median dress. But reenactors representing men (and possibly women?) from those nations will need them.

    One kind of evidence to use is artwork. Aside from the reliefs from Persepolis, the goldsmith’s work from Scythian tombs and the Oxus Treasure, and the mosaic from Pompeii which everyone knows, you will want to have a close look at some of the glazed terracottas of servants from Susa in Forgotten Empire: The World of Ancient Persia or on achemenet and of course at the tomb paintings from Tatarlı, Turkey.

    By far the most important archaeological find are the trousers of saltman No. 4 from Chehrābād, Iran, radiocarbon dated to around 405-380 BCE. The saltman is still wearing trousers tucked into his shoes and covered by the skirt of his coat, and all of the textiles are so delicate and salt-encrusted that they cannot be removed, spread flat, and examined. What we know can be summarized in the following few sentences:

    • The trousers are woollen, tabby weave, 8 z-spun weft threads per cm, 11 s-spun warp threads per cm.
    • There are lateral seams in the trouser legs to ankle, and a vertical slit in the lateral thigh at hip level with the skin of the deceased exposed underneath. (Whether the seams are at the medial leg (inner thigh) or lateral leg (outer thigh) is not clear to me)
    • A red woollen thread is sewn along the side seams hiding them except at the slit.
    • Overall, they strike the excavators as loose and baggy.

    There is no published information about stitches, thread, or dye of saltman 4’s trousers (the cloth looks natural white to me). Edit: Dr. Grömer describes the trousers and tunic as “made of a sturdy, plain natural white woollen cloth” (aus robustem einfarbig naturhellem Wollstoff bestehend).

    An Achaemenid period salt miner: Salt mummy no. 4, Archaeological Museum Zanjan (photograph: Deutsches Bergbau-Museum). Original source: http://www.antiquity.ac.uk/projgall/aali333/

    *** Edit 2019-11-25: Since this was written, I got back in contact with Dr. Grömer and a future post may talk about her understanding of these trousers as described in an article from 2016, Durchdacht gemacht: Die Kleidung eines Salzmannes aus Chehrabad, Iran. Universum Magazin 3/2016, pp. 108-109. She has visited Iran and examined the mummy, I have not! ***

    Out of all the trousers more than a thousand years old I have seen published, these look most similar to the Bronze Age trousers from Yanghai tombs M21 and M157 near Turfan in Xinjiang. The first, best-preserved pair have been radiocarbon dated to a 95% confidence interval of 1122-922 cal. BCE; fibres from the second tomb have been radiocarbon dated to 1261-1040 cal. BCE.

    The Late Bronze Age trousers from Yanghai, Xinjiang. After Fig. 4 and Fig. 5 in http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.quaint.2014.04.056

    Similar short trousers (“breeches” in Middle English) are known from graves in the Caucasus region in the 7th to 10th centuries CE. Two are in the Metropolitan Museum of Art (accession number 1999.153.40 and 1999.153.43). There are photos of them while they were more intact in an article by Nobuko Kajitani. These consist of two rectangular legs and a square or diamond-shaped gusset for the crotch. Bishop Timotheos of Ibrim (d. after 1372) in Nubia wore similar trousers of undyed cotton cloth with two rectangular pieces for the legs and a gusset of two right triangles, a slightly larger one in back and a slightly smaller one in front sewed bias to bias. His trousers had drawstrings tied at the centre front not the hips. Today, this style of trousers are known as shalwar and worn in Kurdistan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

    Information in English or German about the breeches from Tuekta kurgan 1 and the woollen trousers from Alakha-1 site and the Verkh-Kal’djin-2, also in the Altai, is harder to find, but photos and diagrams in the Russian publication show that the short trousers from Verkh-Kal’djin-2 have a piece for each leg and a rectangular or diamond-shaped gusset in the crotch. The Late Bronze Age and Early Iron Age trousers from Chärchän in the Tarim Basin are also said to have been made this way.

    Trousers from Late Roman Denmark and Egypt are also known. These have seams up the back of the legs (unlike saltman 4’s trousers) and a wide gusset in the back with a narrow tail between the legs. Because this style of trouser is not documented in the Near East until Roman times, I would avoid it unless you are already good at making Thorsberg trousers.

    The Yanghai trousers have a stepped gusset, whereas the Caucasus and Nubian trousers have square or diamond-shaped gussets. A diamond shape is easy to cut but hard to weave, so it probably came into fashion as cut clothing replaced woven-to-shape clothing. Unless your trousers are woven to shape, you should probably try a diamond-shaped gusset.

    The upper part of the Chehrābād 4 trousers cannot be examined, and I don’t know of any art which shows this part of trousers in this period. (If you know of a sculpture of topless Scythians wrestling, do share!) Any length from just long enough to cover the hips (like modern “low rider” jeans) to elbow-high (like the trousers in a mid-20th-century suit) could work. The Yanghai M21 trousers are only 104 cm long but have gussets 29 cm long, so a higher waist is probably more plausible than lower. The trousers from the Altai also seem to have high waists.

    The Saka Tigraxauda (“Pointed-Hat Saca”) delegation on the Apadana at Persepolis. They carry hose with integral foot coverings and upper garments. Photo by Marco Prins, license CC 1.0 Universal, c/o https://www.livius.org/pictures/iran/persepolis/persepolis-apadana/persepolis-apadana-east-stairs/saka-tigrakhauda/

    Early trousers sometimes end straight at the bottom, sometime have integral booties, and sometimes have a ‘stirrup’ under the heel to pull them tight. Saltman 4’s trousers are mostly hidden and my notes from Dr. Karina Grömer’s lecture in 2016 are a little unclear. The two pairs of trousers from Yanghai seem to end straight, but the hems are are worn and the trousers may have been shortened during their working life. The only artwork I know which could help is this carving of tribute-bearers from the Apadana at Persepolis. In some photos it looks like hose with integral feet, but in other photos there seems to be a right angle between the hanging part and the bottom of the legs. It could show stirrups, but the hanging part is a bit long. Do my gentle readers have any ideas or a better photo?

    The same relief with the outline of the upper part of the hose highlighted. Photo by Marco Prins, license CC 1.0 Universal, c/o https://www.livius.org/pictures/iran/persepolis/persepolis-apadana/persepolis-apadana-east-stairs/saka-tigrakhauda/

    In indigenous artwork, Scythian and Median trousers disappear inside the shoes or boots rather than draping on top of them like modern trousers (Greek vase painters sometimes show curly-haired Africans or generic easterners whose trousers have cuffs hanging over the shoes, but neither they nor their customers were trouser-wearers). The bottoms of salt man 4’s trousers are still hidden inside his boots. So whether you chose straight cuffs, strirrups, or booties, any trousers you should make should disappear inside low boots without forming bags around the ankles. Eastern nations like the Arachosians and Sogdians sometimes wear loose trousers but they still disappear inside the shoes.

    When Greek artists show the bottoms of leggings, they usually end straight at the ankles, sometimes ‘breaking’ over the top of the foot and sometimes fitting tightly. The clothing in these paintings is very different from the clothing carved at Persepolis or found at Chehrābād (and those places are 1500 miles away), but they are still interesting.British Museum, Registration Number 1837,0609.59 I would cite the British Museum’s Terms of use but I can’t see them without enabling a bunch of Javascripts so just search https://research.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/search.aspxEdit 2022-04-16: Stirrup hose! A white figure lekythos from Athens, c. 440 BCE c/o Sekunda, The Persian Army, p. 50 Musée du Louvre, Département des Antiquités grecques, étrusques et romaines, A 256 – https://collections.louvre.fr/ark:/53355/cl010254777https://collections.louvre.fr/CGU

    In a different month, I will make some mockups in cheap linen or cotton, then a good pair or two in wool. But that takes time and money, and as an underemployed researcher in fall application season I do not have much of either.

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    Select Bibliography: The most useful books and articles are:

    • Aali, Abolfazl / Stöllner, Thomas (eds). (2015) The Archaeology of the Salt Miners: Interdisciplinary Research 2010-2014. Metalla: Forschungsberichte des Deutschen Bergbau-Museums 21.1–2/2014 (Deutsches Bergbau-Museum Bochum) {for sale for about 25 Euros new}
    • Beck, Ulrike, et al., “The invention of trousers and its likely affiliation with horseback riding and mobility: A case study of late 2nd millennium BC finds from Turfan in eastern Central Asia,” Quaternary International (2014), http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.quaint.2014.04.056
    • Elizabeth Crowfoot, “The Clothing of a Fourteenth-Century Nubian Bishop.” In Veronika Gervers ed., Studies in Textile History in Memory of Harold B. Burnham (Toronto: Royal Ontario Museum, 1977) pp. 43-51
    • Nobuko Kajitani, “A Man’s Caftan and Leggings from the North Caucasus of the Eighth to Tenth Centuries: A Conservator’s Report,” Metropolitan Museum Journal 36 pp. 85-124 https://www.metmuseum.org/art/metpublications/Mans_Caftan_Leggings_from_Caucasus_8_to_10_C_Conservation_The_Metropolitan_Museum_Journal_v_36_2001
    • Krug-Ochmann, Julia Barbara (2014) “Achaemenid and Sassanian Trousers. A short technical description from Douzlakh Salt Mine at Chehr Abad, Iran.” Archaeological Textiles Review 56 pp. 60-64 {free to download}
    • Polos’mak, N.V., Barkova, L.L., Костюм и текстиль пазырыкцев Алтая (IV-III вв. до н.З.) / Kostium i tekstil’ pazyryktsev Altaya (IV-III vv. do n. e.) / Pazyryk Altai Costume and Textiles (4th-3rd centuries BCE). Infolio: Novosibirsk 2005 (in Russian) pages 80-85 ISBN 5-89590-051-8 {colour photographs and diagrams of all the clothing and shoes from the Altai including trousers from Alakha-1 and the Verkh-Kal’djin-2}

    *** Edit 2019-11-25: And see also Karina Grömer, Durchdacht gemacht: Die Kleidung eines Salzmannes aus Chehrabad, Iran. Universum Magazin 3/2016, pp. 108-109 which I discovered after writing this post! ***

    (And honourable mention to Peter Calmeyer’s article “Hose” in the Reallexikon der Assyriologie which covers almost all the artwork available today but was written before archaeological finds were available).

    Edit 2019-11-20: Added a photograph of a Red Figure plate showing leggings which end at the ankles.

    Edit 2020-06: If you read German and are interested in the cut-and-sewed clothing from the Caucasus, check out Ierusalimskaja, Anna A. Die Gräber der Moscevaja Balka: Frühmittelalterliche Funde an der nordkaukasischen Seidenstrasse (Munich: Editio Maris, 1996)

    Edit 2022-04-16: Added an apparent depiction of stirrup hose in the Louvre

    Edit 2024-02-17: Tip-o-the-tiara to Carolyn Priest-Dorman of https://stringgeek.blogspot.com/: Aleksei Moskvin published some details on Saltman 4’s textiles for weavers as “Ancient textiles from Chehrabad salt mine,” https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/ancient-textiles-from-chehrabad-salt-mine-10a5f66e3286443c9826d14c80d0e41a (2022). Karina Grömer measured the textiles. I don’t know if these observations have been published in print.

    Trousers of saltman 4:

    • warp yarn, s twist, 50° twist, yarn thickness 0.5-0.6 mm, 7-8 threads per cm
    • weft yarn, z twist, 20-30° twist, yarn thickness 0.5 mm, 22 threads per cm (so it is weft-faced, NB. that sources cited above say 11 weft threads per cm)

    Tunic of saltman 4:

    • warp yarn is s twist, 50° twist, yarn thickness 0.7-0.8 mm, 8 threads per cm,
    • weft yarn is z twist, 20° twist, yarn thickness 0.5-0.6 mm, 30 threads per cm (so it is weft-faced)

    This kind of information is very important for spinners and weavers.

    #AchaemenidEmpire #ancient #DariusMosaic #historicalClothing #Plataia2021 #trousers

    Saka Stockings and Plataea

    Some of the felt stockings/felt boots from graves of the Pazyryk Culture in the Altai Mountains, in Polos’mak, N.V., Barkova, L.L., Костюм и текстиль пазырыкцев Алтая (IV-III вв. до н.З.) / Kostium i tekstil’ pazyryktsev Altaya (IV-III vv. do n. e.) / Pazyryk Altai Costume and Textiles (4th-3rd centuries BCE). Infolio: Novosibirsk 2005 (in Russian) pages 94-95 ISBN 5-89590-051-8 (copies occasionally appear on Bookfinder but expect to pay several hundred for a copy, this copy comes the Bayerische Staatsbibliothek by interlibrary loan)

    Dario Wielec of Dariusz caballeros and Stefanos Skarmintzos want me to talk about the felt stockings with soles which have been found in some graves in eastern Central Asia. They were often worn in combination with a pair of short trousers that covered the thighs and crotch. You can find a full set of colour photographs and drawings on pp. 92-97 of the Russian book I cited in my original post. They are fascinating and beautiful objects (just think about having brightly coloured feltwork more than 2000 years old!) but I am not sure that they help us understand Chehrabad Saltman 4’s trousers for four reasons:

    • they are not what Saltman 4 is wearing (they are felt, his are woven cloth; they are two separate legs, he wears joined trousers; they have seams up the back of the legs, his have seams at the side of the legs; the felt boots are close-fitting, his trousers are “baggy”)
    • in artwork like the Darius Mosaic, Red Figure vase paintings, and the sculptures of the Aphaia temple on Aigina, the leggings of trousered warriors seem to go all the way up to crotch level without sagging. The felt stockings tend to be shorter (although I don’t have a full set of measurements) and in the middle ages when stockings (‘hose’) extended that high, they needed to be hung from a belt to stop them from falling down.
    • trousers in early Achaemenid art often have a zigzag, diamond, or spotted pattern. That strikes me as something which would be easy to weave in tapestry weave like a kilim. Clothing in this period often had gold leaf, felt, or leather appliques, and its possible that the zig-zag was applied to felt. But we have a fragment of a textile with a rhombus pattern from the Achaemenid period at Chehrabad.
    • I am not sure which genders wore these felt stockings, I seem to remember that the famous pair with shiny beads on the soles were from a female burial but I only have access to what has been translated into German or English and what I can obtain from my library or interlibrary loan.

    Since none of the Chehrābād salt mummies are wearing these felt boots, and none of the artwork from the Achaemenid Empire or the Aegean clearly shows them, they don’t belong in a post on Saltman 4’s clothing. But if you scroll down, Herr Doktor Manning will give you his whole lecture on the trouser outfit across Eurasia.

    When Greek artists show the bottoms of leggings, they usually end straight at the ankles, sometimes ‘breaking’ over the top of the foot and sometimes fitting tightly. A Red Figure plate signed Epiktetos, in a style attributed to around 520-510 BCE. British Museum, Registration Number 1837,0609.59 I would cite the British Museum’s Terms of use but I can’t see them without enabling a bunch of Javascripts so just search https://research.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/search.aspxAchaemenid textile with ?woven? or ?embroidered? pattern, from Karina Grömer, Archaeological Textiles Review 60 (2018) p. 113 fig. 3 and Aali and Stöllner (eds). (2015) fig. 55 Photo: DBM/RUB/MFZ, K. Grömer

    Lets have a look at where these sites are located. The distance from Chehrābād, Iran, to Pazyryk, Russia is about the same as the distance from Glasgow to Istanbul. That is a long way to go on horseback or camelback … one of my friends came about that far by truck but it was not a small thing and most of his family stopped in Turkey. The fuzzy black lines are roughly the boundary between lands which know that a Persian is their god-given king (lower left), and lands which have unaccountably not realized that yet (top and right).

    The Ukok Plateau with the Pazyruk Culture tombs (upper right in the Altai Mountains) is about 3,350 km from Chehrābād, Iran (lower left). Only about half that distance was the King’s Land. The distance from Chehrabad to Yanghai, Xinjiang (center right near the Tarim River) is about as far. Map from http://www.freeworldmaps.net/asia/central/physical.html distances from Wikipedia + an online calculator.

    Old research tended to see the Medes and Persians as migrants from the Eurasian steppe who brought a common Eurasian material culture and Zoroastrian religion with them. They spoke an Indo-Germanische Sprache and called themselves Aryans, right? To people thinking this way, it would seem obvious to use finds from thousands of miles east of the King’s land to fill in the gaps in the archaeological record, as long as the finds seem “Scythian,” “Saka,” or “Iranian.”

    But we now know that Media was an Assyrian province for more than a century, and that Persis (Fars) was the highland half of Elam (Khuzestan + Fars). Median and Persian culture were not purely ‘Indo-Aryan’ but products of complex cultural interactions and interchanges in the Zagros mountains. And while you might think that the “Median costume” or “riding outfit” was an unstained inheritance from the distant past, when we look closely we can see many differences between clothing in the Zagros Mountains and clothing in the Altai Mountains or the Tarim Basin:

    Just like folk costume in recent times, the basic idea of a tunic and trousers was interpreted differently in different regions. All these different local traditions had some things in common, but the details differed. The sculptors of the Apadana at Persepolis showed some of the King’s eastern subjects wearing clothing which looks more like the finds from eastern central Asia, such as high boots, kaftans, and coats which are short in front and long in the back (if you can find that Russian book it has lots of beautiful colour photos, artists’ reconstructions and diagrams of those finds).

    Some tribute bearers wearing tunics with long ‘coat-tails’ from the west staircase of the Palace of Darius (probably carved under Artaxerxes III in the fourth century BCE). Detail of a drawing from Curtis and Talis (eds.), Forgotten Empire: The World of Ancient Persia p. 79

    I would be very grateful if someone who reads Russian and has access to the right publications would write up a study of far eastern material culture for re-enactors (maybe in partnership with Eran ud Turan?) Those books are very hard to obtain and very few of us can read them. And if I meet someone in a beautiful Pazyryk kit I will ooh and aah and ask lots of questions. But if you want to get as close to things worn at Plataea in 479 BCE as you can, if you want to represent someone from the central or western parts of the Achaemenid empire, I would recommend gathering as many sources from the empire as you can, then looking at Ötzi’s fire kit or the textiles from Yanghai and Pazyryk to fill in the gaps and help interpret things which are unclear.

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    Edit 2019-12-07: In another place, Dario Wielec brings up Dagmar Dinkler and Carol James’ theory that some of the trousers in Aegean art are sprang (a type of springy weave similar to knit or naalbinding and often used for hammocks and sashes). I agree that that is a possibility which people working on the trousers in art from the Aegean or Neo-Assyrian reliefs should explore, but I don’t know of any archaeological finds and it is not what any of the salt men were wearing below the waist. To learn more about their ideas, check out:

    #ancient #DariusMosaic #historicalClothing #Plataia2021

    The Thrust of an Argument

    Impression of a seal on clay: a warrior in a Median hood and a cuirass with a tall projection behind the neck with a piercing axe thrust into it pulls an enemy’s shield down and stabs overhand into his chest as the enemy brandishes a club. From Erich F. Schmidt with contributions by Sydney P. Noe et al., Frederick R. Matson, Lawrence J. Howell, and Louisa Bellinger, Persepolis II: Contents of the Treasury and Other Discoveries. Oriental Institute Publications 69. Chicago: The University of Chicago Press, 1957 plate 9 seal 30. http://oi.uchicago.edu/research/publications/oip/oip-69-persepolis-ii-contents-treasury-and-other-discoveries

    Sometime in the sixteenth year of Xerxes great king (circa 468/7 BCE in our calendar), someone at Persepolis turned a tablet with Elamite writing on end and rolled his seal along it. A conversation with Josho Brouwers of Karwansaray BV recalled it to memory. Because this seems to show the style of body armour with a tall neck-guard and flaps over the shoulders which is often understood as distinctively Greek and said to have been invented about a hundred years before Xerxes based on its appearance in Greek vase paintings. But there is no hint of the Aegean in this scene, and this armour is missing the skirt of pteryges around the waist which usually appear in depictions of armour with this cut from the Aegean.

    Showing where this style of armour was invented and how it spread and changed is more difficult than it sounds. It is true that the earliest evidence is painted pottery from mainland Greece in the early sixth or perhaps the late seventh century BCE. But in the sixth century BCE, it happens that we have much more evidence for arms and armour from the Aegean than from anywhere in the neighbourhood. The people there painted armoured men on their pots with durable glazes and carved them on stone, and they deposited large amounts of armour and weapons in graves and especially temples. So it is very dangerous to say that the Greeks invented an object just because it is first depicted in the Aegean, especially if that object is one which does not survive well in the ground. It is usually thought that the first armours with this cut were of cloth or felt or hide, and none of those materials survives 2500 years in the ground unless the conditions are just right. Although by the second century BCE armour with this cut was being worn all around the Mediterranean and made in every possible material, not a single fragment made from cloth or hide has been identified. So while this style of armour was probably invented somewhere in or near to the Aegean around the sixth century BCE, its hard to say for sure that it was invented by Greeks.

    Closeup of the horseman from a carved and painted sarcophagus from Çan south of the Sea of Marmara. Note the hood, tall neckguard, pteryges at the waist, and short sleeves or extended shoulder flaps. Copyright Troy Excavation Project, photo found at http://odysseion.blogspot.co.at/2010/05/oft-debated-tube-and-yoke-linothorax.html

    Whoever invented this style of armour, from the fifth century onwards it seems to have spread east and west with Greek and perhaps Etruscan and Phoenician sailors and soldiers and artisans. Yet its a bit harder to say how the people who borrowed it understood what they were doing.

    However we interpret this body armour, the whole body is not protected by the same amounts of the same materials. By Steven Zucker https://www.flickr.com/photos/profzucker/8215877312/ distributed with a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic license.

    If we look at the Darius Mosaic from Pompeii, an incredibly good copy of a painting made circa 300 BCE, we see this style of armour on both sides. The Persians desperately defending their king mostly wear armours with this cut but with a blocky shape and red surface. The king of the Macedonians who are pushing into the scene from the left as Darius’s driver turns away also wears this style of armour, but his is different in almost every detail. Clearly Macedonians and Persians adapted the basic form of this armour to their own taste. While Greeks liked to boast that Philip of Macedon had borrowed his phalanx from Homer, and Darius and his men had copied Greek swords and lances, no Macedonian or Persian has left us their words to tell us whether they saw their armour as Greek. And the soldier on the seal above was happy to wear close-fitted Iranian clothing under his armour, thrust a very Iranian axe behind his shoulder where he could grab it quickly, and leave aside the large round shield which warriors from the Aegean favoured for hand-to-hand combat.

    One of Darius’ men on the Alexander Mosaic. By Steven Zucker https://www.flickr.com/photos/profzucker/with/8214772123/ distributed with a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic license.

    Further Reading: Duncan Head, The Achaemenid Persian Army (Montvert: Stockport, 1992) p. 27 fig. 14a, John Curtis and Nigel Tallis eds., Forgotten Empire: The World of Ancient Persia (University of California Press: Berkeley, 2005) pp. 210-217. The Oriental Institute Publications on Persepolis are free and well worth the reading (link).

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    Edit 2023-09-27: fixed broken image elements

    #AchaemenidArmy #AlexanderTheGreat #ancient #armour #DariusIII #DariusMosaic #IronAge #JarvaTypeIVArmour #methodology

    What Ridley Scott’s “Gladiator” Gets Right

    I wish I could like a flick where this happens to a Roman in the first scene! This and all subsequent screenshots are from Gladiator (Ridley Scott dir., 2000) and the ActionPicks YouTube channel

    In the Kingdom of Khauran, every hundred years a witch shall be born to the royal family. In the United States of America, every ten years Ridley Scott shall borrow unimaginable sums of money to mangle a new period of warfare. This has been foretold and has come to pass although none can foretell whether he will return with an Amarna Age epic where the chariots have exhaust pipes or a science fiction adventure which makes Starship Troopers look like sound military science.1 Making fun of all the things these films get wrong is healthy fun around a gaming table or along a bar, and recently Bret Devereaux entered the genre on his ACOUP blog (part 1) (part 2) (part 3). But as I wrote back in 2016, complaining about bad things is often bad strategy. So this week I will wrote about the things I like about the opening scene in Ridley Scott’s Gladiator. That is something I can cover in a short bookandsword post, whereas it takes three long ACOUP posts to cover some of the things that are wrong with the same scene.

    Two Armies Unlike in Dignity

    Ridley Scott’s ideas about Rome were confused at best, but he did get it into his head that he wanted to portray a battle between the material-rich army of a complex, unequal society and the material-poor army of a simple, equal society. Many of Rome’s northern neighbours did not have large settlements, spectacular monuments, or gorgeous works of art. Some did not even have swords like their Iron Age ancestors.2 Since they were in contact with the La Tène ‘Celtic’ world and the Romans, these were almost certainly deliberate choices by people who had seen that if you allow too much difference, some people will start to take more than their fair share, change the rules so you can’t say no, and tell you that they deserve it because they are special. If every man is a warrior, they have to use weapons that every man can obtain, and use them in a way they can learn between producing food, building homes, and raising their children. The Hjortspring people certainly knew about bows and arrows, but they did not bring them to war, probably because there was a custom against this or because it was hard for a slash-and-burn farmer to find the time to become a really good archer.

    The barbarian army. Its hard to get a good screenshot of this scene because everyone is moving and there are issues with image compression as it goes from film to a DVD to YouTube to streaming

    Meanwhile the Romans had lost control of their elite during the Republic. More and more wealth had become concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, and institutions and practices of self-government had shrunk and faded. By the second century CE Italy was as rich in material goods as eighteenth-century Europe but as politically primitive as the Montreal mob. The Romans had a society where someone could do nothing but put feathers on arrows for a living, but also a society where people with a new cloak every day lived next to people who got a new cloak every two years. If the Roman army needed a skill, it could hire people and pay soldiers to learn it; if it needed a piece of equipment, it could make it or buy it. If necessary, it could find soldiers with the right skills in Syria and send them to Britannia where they left Aramaic inscriptions on their days off.3 So Roman armies and barbarian armies were starkly different in the second century CE.

    Scott’s Roman army consists of legionaries, archers, cavalry, and catapults who all have different roles. The archers and catapults pelt the woods with fire arrows and pots of burning oil, then the legions advance, then finally the cavalry charge the barbarians in the rear. In contrast, the barbarian army consists of a mass of men with spears, swords, and axes. They have different weapons and shield, but all beat their weapons on their shields, then back away from the Roman missiles, then charge the Roman legions in a loose pack. Barbarians with long spears and long axes don’t work from the protection of men with shields and short weapons. In one sequence of shots, the barbarians have a few archers with wooden bows who shoot a single volley at the Romans at close range. That is the only time where one group of barbarians fights differently than another.

    All of Scott’s Romans except a few flunkies are armoured and have helmets. Fun-ruining historians have long suspected that neither the Roman legions or the Assyrian royal corps really managed to give every man metal body armour, but sculptors and film directors pretended that they did. In contrast, none of the barbarians seems to have any metal armour at all. They wear random furs and leathers with studs and stiff hats which we might be supposed to understand as protective, but no embossed breastplates, coats of mail, or segmented shoulder guards. Their only protection is their shields, and since its a Hollywood battle, towards the end everyone loses their shield anyways.

    The barbarian general. We know he is the general because he is the only one with anything shiny. I think he is holding a carnyx horn rather than his Danish axe from a previous shot.

    I have written about how Scott gifted the world of film with the desaturated blue-grey battle scene which is an evil which will live after him like Ignatius Donnelly’s writings. Armies before the 20th century went to war in the brightest, most sparkly things they could beg, borrow, or steal, because if you were not willing to risk things, how could anyone trust you to risk your life? Going to war in your best showed that you had access to resources, and it increased the chance that people would recognize you as you did something heroic, and being a war hero could change your life. As Baldassare Castiglione teaches us, you have to be seen and recognized doing something to get the credit.

    But Scott used this visual device to tell a story about the two armies. Everything that his barbarians carry is black, blue, brown, and grey. His Romans have yellow brass and embroidery, red flags and cloaks, and white feathers on their arrows. The brass on their armour is sometimes even shiny, whereas the only shiny thing that any of the barbarians wears is the barbarian leader’s belt buckle. Maximus’ horse wears more bling on its head than the wealthiest of the barbarians wears on his whole body.

    Maximus’ horse, shinier than the shiniest of the barbarians. That looks more like a sixteenth-century chaffron than a Roman chaffron on the horse’s head but its not the type of film that cares about that kind of detail

    The Roman fieldworks with wooden stakes and mantlet shields are confusing since the Romans want to attack and want the Germans to stand and fight (and the Romans have an overwhelming advantage in firepower and are sitting atop a hill). But they at least add to the impression that the Romans have endless stuff, bulky, martial, intimidating stuff.

    Maximus’ dog has more bronze bling than the barbarian leader! Archaeology it is not, but symbolism it is. I suspect that one of the safety officers nixed a spiked collar and this was the substitute that the props department came up with.

    The opening battle scene reminds me of Tacitus on the barbarians. Tacitus was aware of some of the differences between Romans and northern barbarians in general, but neither knew or cared the details. He was much more interested in moralizing and presenting binary oppositions where the barbarians were the anti-Romans. If you look at this scene as a rich British person imagining what a battle between imperial troops and barbarian might have been like, like Tacitus imagined what a battle between Romans and barbarians might have been like, its easier to enjoy. Scott fills his film with tropes from Hollywood war movies and Hollywood chatter about war, but Tacitus filled his writings with tropes from Latin literature and senatorial chatter about the Good Old Days and the Leitmotif of all Roman literature, “are we the baddies?” Neither was a good Rankean who just wanted to establish what had actually happened and leave the moralizing to the lazy.

    Catapults

    Some of the Roman catapults. Not the best recreations but at least they tried!

    One of the most unusual practices of the Roman army was that they used stone-throwing and bolt-throwing catapults in the field. Alexander and his successors, to my knowledge, are never said to do this. Onomarchus of Phocis ambushed Philip’s army with stone-throwers who were probably men with rocks. Philip, Alexander, and the successors used catapults in sieges and river crossings but not skirmishes or battles. Examples after the Roman empire are also scarce: the French once used some catapults against Flemings drawn up in a strong position, and the Flemings came out, chopped up the ropes, and returned to their own lines leaving the ruined engines behind them.4 Catapults were just not so destructive or long-ranged to be worth the trouble of setting them up and adding the complexity of another weapons system.

    The Romans created a myth that only they knew how to build siege engines or besiege cities. Like many myths this was created to be unfalsifiable, because if the Romans hear of barbarians using siege engines, they declared that the barbarians had stolen them from the Romans or been trained by Roman deserters. The sculptors of Trajan’s Column lingered on depictions of Roman catapults and Dacian forts being methodically stormed. So I appreciate that Ridley Scott found an excuse to show Roman catapults pelting the barbarians, even if he had to combine it with the FIRE ARROWS! trope.

    The brass front plate or shield from a Roman bolt-throwing catapult from Cremona, Italy. This filled the open space between the two coils of rope that powered the throwing arms, and it was frighteningly expensive and bright as a thunderbolt. Scott’s props team took this as their inspiration. Photo care of https://romanmilitaryequipment.co.uk/ If you are in the UK you can buy a complete three-span catapult including a brass front plate from Tod https://todsworkshop.com/products/roman-ballista-catapulta-in-stock

    Barbarians from Central Casting

    The barbarian army. Its hard to get a good screenshot of this shot because everyone is moving and there are issues with image compression as it goes from film to a DVD to YouTube to streaming. Note the monster-mouthed carnyx horn.

    Ridley Scott’s barbarians are generic Hollywood barbarians, with tunics and trousers, swords and shields, axes and carnyx trumpets and lots of fur and brown leather. You could drop the same extras into the recent Netflix Vikings show without making them switch costumes. That also reflects how sculptors at Rome portrayed the barbarians during the Roman empire. It is extremely hard to tell whether barbarians in Roman art are supposed to be Germanic, Sarmatian, Dacian, or Parthian because they are all given the same sort of clothing and equipment. Sculptors in the provinces give detailed pictures of local fashions on cheap local stone, but sculptors in the capital take the finest imported marble, say “barbarians have wild hair and trousers and exotic shields and no armour,” and start carving. Just like Ridley Scott, they did not know or care about the details of specific nations at specific times, and certainly not practical details like “is that a centregrip shield or a strapped shield?” Even specialists are confused by Parthian art that shows men with Parthian trouser-suits but European spined oval shields.5

    Some of the Romans wear Superman cloaks fastened by two pins on the two shoulders. Of course that is not how you wear a cloak to keep yourself warm and dry and un-sunburned, but it probably helped some viewers understand that Maximus’ soldiers were the good guys. Giving all the Roman legionaries segmented armour and all the Roman archers coats of mail also helped viewers recognize the different types of soldier.

    The battle was filmed at a softwood lumber plantation at Bourne Wood in England. This is not a good representation of Roman Germania with its dense network of small farmsteads separated by working woods, but it is the world of forests which Romans imagined when they imagined the edges of the world. Everyone in Rome knew that on the edges of their world were bogs and forests and mountains and killing heat or chilling cold, and they did not bother to double-check with the merchants who traveled north to trade Roman iron and wine for barbarian amber and slaves.

    The Battle Piece as Rag Rug

    The barbarians realize that someone is behind them. In this shot they seem to be fighting in a deep line against the Roman line, but in the next shot we see a Hollywood melee

    In many ways, the battle scene feels like Scott threw together a bunch of clips. First there is the bombardment of the woods with fire arrows and jars of burning oil, then the Roman legions advance, then the barbarians loose a volley of arrows and charge, then the Roman and barbarian infantry lines come together, then the Roman cavalry ride through the woods, then some of the barbarians in the rear of the barbarian army turn to face them, then there is chaotic single combat, then there is a panorama over the burning battlefield with the dead and wounded. Its not always clear how you get from one to the other and there are some editing errors like a scene where the barbarians advance over ground feathered with arrows before the Romans draw their bows. Its hard to understand why in the first shot of the barbarians, all the barbarians have swords and axes to wave in the air and beat on their shields, while when the barbarians charge, many have spears, even though safety officers are worried about extras falling and impaling each other or tripping over each other’s spears.

    If you have never fought in a group, go try your local boffer-fighting club, because you will see why breaking formation quickly leads to everyone being dead, while just two or three people are much more effective as long as they cover each other and nobody can get behind them. As long as you keep on your feet and don’t get hit you can have fun whacking away at people who are distracted or make beginner’s errors like letting their shield move out of position as they wind up to cut. And of course losing your helmet or your shield is a very bad idea even if it makes it easier for the camera to see your face. However, this type of battle scene reminds me of ancient art.

    One side of a painted wooden chest from the Tomb of Tutankhamun in the Egyptian Museum, Cairo. Pharaoh rides from left to right supported by helpers in their own chariots and shoots at the Nubians who have crowded into a thicket and are falling wounded or dying. Photo care of Wikimedia Commons under a Creative Commons license.

    Ancient art west of China often depicted battlefields as filled with chaotic bodies fighting and dying. Civilized and organized peoples like the Egyptians and Assyrians often showed groups of two to four soldiers pushing their way through the enemy mob, while disorderly peoples like the Greeks who could barely line up and charge together focused on individuals pulling each other’s hair and stabbing each other. Almost the whole space was filled with bodies, with no voids when the two sides decided they were quite close enough and getting closer would be too dangerous. The battle-picture-as-diagram with blocks of little figures holding little weapons only appears in Europe in the sixteenth century. I hope one day to have time to explore why this might be. The “Hollywood melee” is not how people with any experience fight a battle, but it reminds me of the painted battle chest from Tutankhamun’s tomb and the Abdalonymus sarcophagus from Tyre.

    Another New Kingdom Egyptian battle scene. An unusual trope in Egyptian art is that their soldiers rarely wear armour, either to show that they are fearless of heart and protected by the gods, or because the conventions of Egyptian art had been set before anyone invented scale armour. Roman and Assyrian artists preferred to show off their soldiers’ equipment, Greeks were on the fence between showing beautiful nude bodies and splendid war-gear. You can learn more about New Kindom battle pictures in an unpublished PhD thesis and whatever cites it. 6

    The single barbarian volley of arrows also shows why you don’t shoot arrows in volleys. When they see the barbarians nocking their arrows the Romans crouch down behind their shields and hold their shields overhead like a Late Roman foulkon. After the arrows have landed they get up to fight. The Zulu figured out how to deal with British artillery in the same way, throwing themselves to the ground when the gunner got ready to pull the lanyard then getting up after the shell exploded.7 A later Roman military manual says that European barbarians make beginner’s errors like failing to post flank guards, so this shot at least shows the barbarians trying something which the Romans defeat with training and equipment.

    In the days of the open web, medievalists Paul Halsall and Steve Muhlberger had some thoughts on how to talk about historical films which are subtly different from mine. Halsall noticed that Scott avoids the trope of the “early Christian” from sword-and-sandals films. If you want a take by a historian which is different from my take and Bret Devereaux’s take it is well worth exploring.

    Matthew Amt’s Law

    One of the last shots of the scene. This would be great in a film about World War I.

    The most important things to know about ancient films and TV shows is Matthew Amt’s Law: assume everything you see on a screen is wrong! The power of fiction is so great that if you don’t deliberately chose to put it aside fiction will colour how you think about the past. In the second half of a long and violent life, Marc MacYoung had given up watching action and war films to focus on romantic comedies because most screenwriters have some experience with romance. I never felt a desire to watch this film a second time because it has some spectacular set pieces but is not very good as a story or a period piece. It is meant to make you feel, not think. Russel Crowe’s story that they started with just 32 pages of script and had to improvise many lines and even character names during shooting seems plausible.

    But if you enjoy Gladiator as something like Trajan’s Column or the res gestae divi Augusti, not the Darius Mosaic or Xenophon’s Anabasis, I think you can have fun watching it once. It does not show how things were back in the day, but it shows the way that wealthy people in distant cities imagine battles between their army and barbarians. And these days, there are all kinds of small-budget films by people who care about the details of the past. Big-budget films are not made for us, but we can use our modest resources and make things that fill our own needs.

    This will be my last regularly scheduled blog post of the summer. I have bike rides to take, a book to send in, shields to paint, and a better job to find, and in the current state of the world good honest writing takes an immense amount of time and energy indoors behind a computer. If you want me to keep blogging, please support this site.

    Edit 2025-07-27: trackback from Hacker News https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44686049

    (drafted 13 July 2025, completed 29 July)

  • “Verhoeven’s or Heinlein’s?” Starship Troopers the film shows an army which could be outfought by a troop of Girl Guides, but Heinlein wrote his novel after parachuting had become too dangerous to risk against anyone other than a low-level insurgency (Marc R. Devore, When Failure Thrives, The Army Press, 2015), and Mobile Infantry bouncing into the air seem awfully vulnerable to anything on the battlefield that can shoot. Fun-ruining fans are also worried about power armour falling through floors or getting stuck in doorways. Veteran wargamer (and fellow British Columbian) David Pulver gives a brief overview of the problems in GURPS Classic Mecha (1999). Pointers to the pop military mechanics that inspired Starship Troopers, like H. Beam Piper got his contragrav cavalry from speculations about helicopter gunships, would be appreciated! ↩︎
  • An excellent introduction is Jørgensen, L. / Storgaard, B. / Gebaue Thomsen, L. (2003) The Spoils of Victory: The North in the Shadow of the Roman Empire (Copenhagen) ↩︎
  • Rather than an academic paper how about some local news: Andrew White, “South Shields tombstone is to be loaned to British Museum,” The Northern Echo, 28 January 2024 ↩︎
  • The battle of Mons-en-Pévèle on 18 August 1304: J.F. Verbruggen, The Art of War in Western Europe During the Middle Ages, second edition (The Boydell Press: Woodbridge, 1997) p. 199 (I can’t find my copy of Kelly DeVries’ book on these wars). ↩︎
  • Michael J. Taylor, “Celtic Military Equipment in the Ancient Mediterranean: Innovation, Imitation, and Empire, 400–25 BCE,” The Journal of Military History, Vol. 87 No. 3 (2023) p. 595 (one of the two is London, British Museum, Museum number 1929,1012.356) ↩︎
  • W. Raymond Johnson, “An Asiatic battle scene of Tutankhamun from Thebes: a late Amarna antecedant of the Ramesside battle-narrative tradition,” PhD Thesis, University of Chicago, 1992. Johnson retired in 2022 so he may or may not get around to finishing a book based on his thesis. Academia is a strange world, and wealthy American research universities are even stranger. ↩︎
  • The best source I can do for this is Charles Aikenhead, “Isandlwana and a Four-Letter Word,” Military History Journal (The South African Military History Society / Die Suid-Afrikaanse Krygshistoriese Vereniging), Vol. 18 No. 2 (June 2018) http://samilitaryhistory.org/jnl2/vol182ca.html ↩︎
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