"... so much of our land [in NZ] and so much of our effort goes into an industrial process to make mostly milk powder, this commodity that ends up overseas to be, basically, the key ingredient of a whole lot of junk food ...

... in this country ... there's a beautiful climate, and water ... and somehow we end up importing something around 80% of our food that's in the supermarket ..."

#MikeJoy, 2026

https://thekaka.substack.com/p/mini-hoon-live-with-bernard-hickey

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