In this 30 minutes presentation, you see a 10 demo showing the presenter writing no line of code, no command line, but rather using only #PodmanDeskop graphical UI, and moving containers from #Podman to a local #Kind powered #Kubernete, and to a remote #OpenShift. Yes, that's fast. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QXQAydUg1zE
Simplifying containers and Kubernetes on your laptop with Podman Desktop

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