heading to the fourth #ELIXIRTox meeting in Birmingham

This workshop's theme is educational/training material, and looking forward to learning about learning paths!

undoubtedly with some overlap with the @elixir_europe Toxicology Community workshop from last week (#ELIXIRTox), today and tomorrow I am attending the FAIR4ChemNL Workshop (#FAIR4ChemNL, https://tdcc.nl/evenementen/fair4chemnl-workshop/) about #fair in #chemistry (no surprise, but that's why we do FAIR: no surprises)
FAIR4ChemNL workshop - TDCC.nl

Date: June 4-5, 2024 Location: Utrecht (UU Science Park, Buys Ballot Building) Participation is invitation based. For participation inquiries and more information write to [email protected]. Data-centered approaches in chemistry hold the promise of uncovering groundbreaking solutions critical for advancing energy and material transitions, pharmaceutical innovations, and circular economy endeavors. In the realm of chemical research, […]

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@iseult (online btw) is now showing a bit what we're going to do in the hands-on session: talk about the content of the FIP, but not talk about the @nanopub formalization (we can do that after the in person workshop) #ELIXIRTox

@iseult brings up the machine-actionable aspect of FAIR. This is essential for interoperability, indeed.

Now, I have heard the argument that LLMs make a lot of narratives automatically "machine actionable".

I disagree. I think LLMs make narrative in the first place *machine questionable*

#ELIXIRTox

we are now moving on the FAIR Implementation Profiles (FIPs). I'm very excited to learn more about this. @iseult is introducing the history, the context, and how they are using it (e.g. in PARC) I know the idea, and understand some of the technologies. But I got stuck and lost in the more "user friendly" tools :/ #ELIXIRTox
we were asked what databases we (people from the @elixir_europe Toxicology Community) are using #ELIXIRTox
the second day of the #ELIXIRTox workshop in Utrecht has started. We first had a half hour discussion on challenges in making adverse outcome pathways (AOPs) more #FAIR (and yesterday one FAIR Cookbook recipe was already started for that), and Ulrike Wittig is now giving an overview of the @elixir_europe Data Platform, leading to many questions and nice discussions
after a short break and the #ELIXIRTox group photo, @pennyn (KI/SE) introduces (or reminds us of) the concept of AOPs, and now Clemens Wittwehr (JRC/IT) going to talk about AOPs at OECD, AOP-DB versus AOP-Wiki, and more

we are wrapping up the #FAIRCookbook session, where I introduced the @elixir_europe FAIR Cookbook that resulted from the #FAIRPlus project and how it uses a "recipe" approach to show people how research output can be made more FAIR.

The introduction (I will try to make the slides available later) was followed by a hands-on session, and 5 or 6 groups have been drafting a FAIR cookbook recipe! We're now listening to the groups reporting back about their results #ELIXIRTox

we're back from the #ELIXIRTox lunch, and now discussing the challenges introduced just before the break. We're discussing a challenge, not unique to #toxicology, the one that people do not use identifiers enough, making reuse a lot harder. FAIR has not sufficiently solved this yet