@very_soft_particles this all sounds a lot more devious and severe than I was imagining and I’m so sorry you’re dealing with these assholes. Are there other ppl in your class who are aware these guys are Nazis and could maybe be convinced to do something about it or at least put them in their place?
@very_soft_particles for some reason I interpreted your initial post like you were a teacher dealing with kids in your class falling into this stuff but now I’m realizing maybe you are a student and these are your (younger) peers, if that’s the dynamic it’s a lot harder. I agree kindness and building rapport is still the best option but yeah I’d be a lot more tempted to consider… less constructive routes
@very_soft_particles assuming these are teenage boys, they fall into this world because it’s an inviting space that treats them like adults who matter. Try to do the same. Speak to them about it from a place of interest in them, ask questions and don’t be dismissive of their answers. Try to get them talking about their emotions behind their beliefs rather than debating the talking points. If you’re able to build some kind of rapport with them you might eventually be able to show them there are other communities where they would be valued and respected. It’s a lot of work and I wish I knew of other ways but unfortunately “gentle parenting the Nazi children” is the only thing I’ve seen get actual results (if we’re talking about adults that’s a very different story)
@ketchupchip Don’t Tell Mom The Babysitter’s Dead
Just want to confirm that you can organize a punk show without mentioning it on instagram or facebook and 600 people will show up
There’s a specific kind of awful gut feeling when you start to see posts that someone has passed in the international punk community but their name isn’t mentioned yet, and you have to wonder if you knew them or not — you have to decide if you’d rather find out now or wait til you come across it again. Once you know, you again have to decide whether you want to start saying their name and being the person who brings that news to people who might be hit really hard. It feels especially strange if you didn’t know that person very well, yet you are still affected by their passing for reasons beyond your own understanding, and you know that you have to stop trying to make sense of it and just feel it instead, but no matter how many times you’ve been through that it never gets any easier
@Lerockmonsieur I’m in the process of organizing all my movie/ tv files for the same reason. Time to organize a band practice + file swap
@SaraElbourne I’m really glad to know I’m not on the side of hardcore internet where I’d see this type of crap. Baffling to know ppl in subculture still think like that this day and age. Yet another tragic example of why I never fucked with the “hardcore kids who don’t listen to punk” bracket
@SaraElbourne this makes me feel much better about missing the show… Montreal needs to do something about this tho honestly it’s getting embarrassing. We need Sara’s Mosh Army to run the scene