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@niekvdpas To give an even vaguer answer. A fairly limited LLM can be run reasonably well on my four-year-old laptop. A much more capable model can be run on a machine, such as a Mac Studio. This does consume energy, but not very much. Especially given that typical LLM use does not imply sustained full-load operation.
Compared to these examples, optimized hardware or software, scale, better utilization, etc. will be more efficient.
@niekvdpas As far as is known, AI companies do not publish detailed data, so there are more or less plausible guesstimates. Andy Masley (see link) has written several solid articles on the topic. Granted, he is just another person on the internet, but I find his argument reasonably convincing. This is not about specific numbers, but about a rough estimate of the order of magnitude of LLM energy consumption and how that compares to overall personal energy use
https://andymasley.substack.com/p/a-cheat-sheet-for-conversations-about
@siracusa @vmachiel Energy usage is also often overstated. Nobody is arguing that AI does not consume energy, or that aggregate demand does not add up. But this has to be evaluated in relation to the use and that it is spread across hundreds of millions of users. When broken down per individual and compared with what a typical Western European or American uses energy for, AI usage is negligible.
@vmachiel @siracusa AI is already tremendously useful for a large number of people. Yes, there are many concrete and hypothetical drawbacks, but even if none of the promised upsides ever materialize and even if models never improve beyond today’s level – it is still immensely useful. Collapsing all of that into “useless” is simply not true.
@TechRemarker @atpfm That being said, since Google added support for Live Activities and implemented “getting directions without starting navigation,” I think they’ve out-Apple’d Apple in terms of convenience and ease of use for both walking and cycling navigation. Which, admittedly, is probably an edge case for many Americans.
@TechRemarker @atpfm I’d love for Google Maps to be able to take over the Home Screen the way Apple Maps does. This would be especially helpful for navigation on foot or by bicycle. Aside from a nicer UI and better system integration, that’s probably the only reason I still try Apple Maps from time to time.
@vnkr @caseyliss At least we can agree that the current Celsius convention makes sense. Originally it was the other way around: 100° for freezing water and 0° for boiling.
@caseyliss I’m not getting into that discussion 😃
Display sizes (phones, TVs, monitors) are in inches in Europe too. If you care about cars, 0–60 mph ≈ 0–100 km/h. Fahrenheit? I don’t check the weather over there (but below zero is cold in both systems?).
@atpfm @caseyliss I, for one, appreciate the unit conversions; at the very least, they make me chuckle a bit. So thank you, Casey 😊
BTW: I do have some vague intuition for inches and miles, but all the other units (including Fahrenheit) are just a blank to me.
@audiodump @flowinho Zum Thema „Inhalt von ZIP-Archiven anzeigen“: Folder Quick Look https://apps.apple.com/de/app/folder-quick-look/id6753110395 zeigt per Leertaste (Quick Look) den Inhalt von Ordnern und ZIP-Archiven direkt im Finder auf dem Mac 😊
