thanks for the link backing this up! I read about it in a book but got lazy and didn’t want to try to hunt down a source lol.

I mean guys, stop freaking out. What possible could go wrong if we enshitify global geopolitics?

God, I’m so disgusted now. I never actually connected those two dots. F’ing Donald is turning into a mobster-netflix mash up demanding subscription fees or he’ll break your legs.

lmao it absolutely has kill switches. And I all but guarantee they go beyond the already onerous ecosystem and software demands.

I’d wager some of the kill switches go below software and are hardwired in at the chip level.

If a disease with anything close to a 50% case fatality rate spreads far and wide, it’ll collapse human civilization. There won’t be anyone to collect the debt afterward. Those who survive would have to rebuild society from the ground up.

If it doesn’t spread far and wide and it’s only a small number of people who end in ICU, yeah they’ll need to hire a bankrupcty lawyer once they recover.

It’s a bit complicated. That survival rate primarily includes people who become severely ill and seek medical attention. Since it’s the most severe cases, the case fatality rate (CFR) will appear higher.

HOWEVER, what also needs to be emphasized is that a disease with like a 10% CFR is probably a civilization (as we know it) ending disease. I believe covid 19 was between like 1-2% and we saw how it nearly broke our health care system, and that was with people more competent than RFK in charge.

If a disease emerges that spreads as easily as COVID did and with a CFR rate 3 to 4X as worse, it’d obliterate the health care system very, very quickly. Then people are going to start dying en masse from preventable diseases, like common infections, moderate injuries (e.g. broken leg) etc.

If a disease emerges that spreads as fast and far as COVID and has a 50% CFR, yeah that’d collapse most societies completely. Maybe some societies that can truly lock down and enforce social distancing, like China, could survive long enough for a vaccine or other solution to become available.

lol. I assure you, the one who’s tone deaf here is absolutely you.

Buying a used car comes with various risks and it’s easy to end up with a bad deal. If you know what you’re doing and you have a bit of luck you can find good deals.

And there are plenty of middle and upper middle class people on tight budgets not due to luxury.

Do you realize how many people are bankrupted by medical costs?

Do you realize people get laid off, suffer debilitating injuries, or otherwise take a big hit to their income and finances through little to no fault of their own?

If you were making $125,000 a year five years, buying a Model E could make financial success (save on gas, once solid resale value, longevity, etc.)

Then a few years you lose your job. Selling your tesla at a steep lose in that situation could be a really bad move depending on your position (especially if the care is paid for.)

You… don’t think that some middle and upper middle class people face tight budgets?

You “seriously” are trying to argue against that?

Beyond which, the Model 3 isn’t that expensive compared other new models. But eating a $10,000 loss on a car can be difficult for many people.

I mean we know their sales numbers: ~39,000

I’m way too lazy to try to figure out how many Teslas are on the road, but they sold 350,000 in the USA in 2022 alone and I think they doubled that in 2023, although by that point the mask was coming off.

Yes. I get that and I agree with you. But now we’re missing the context: This discussion started over harassing if not attacking Tesla owners in general. My original point is that many if not most Tesla owners bought their vehicles before Musk took off the mask. It’s fine to point out Cybertruck owners as making the decision knowingly, but keep in mind they are like .005 percent of all Tesla owners.

Nah, I’m just pointing out how numbers work.

Hundreds of thousands of Teslas were sold before Musk pulled off the mask. Cybertrucks account for a tiny percent of Teslas.

By all means, boycott Tesla. I sure as hell wouldn’t buy one anymore.