@reazonozaer Ahhhh it's much clearer now, explained this way. Thank you. So indeed, I think I understand better now, what you mean by that.

Control over others is something I'm completely against, also.
Even thought I didn't correlate it with wealth before, I keep the two distinct, but you are right, it sometimes does have a direct correlation in reality.

Thanks for the explanation

@reazonozaer @zhenguoli I'm sorry, I didn't understand the beginning of your answer, the part "because you have to and own". Am I still "petite bourgeoisie" in this case ?

The second part is much clearer, so now I understand a limit, the fact that you don't have to work and can use the money generated from investments for example.

In this case here's another example : my parents have worked and sacrificed their entire life, and let's say they have saved enough to invest or whatever and [...]

@ryanhoulihan Absolutely.

Plus, regional management would be so much easier to implement, would be easier for people to feel like their voice matters, would get people more engaged since they'd be voting on something that directly impacts their day to day life ...

As you said, it would be against all of their interests.

I think Switzerland has something like that in place, they have voting over regions called cantons, if I'm not mistaken.

@ryanhoulihan I think that would be an amazing idea, and I think that would come closer to my idea of a "participative democracy" type of thing. Anyone could get educated on certain subjects, then they could vote on those issues !

But then again, having that would make many politicians' jobs redundant ... So who's going to vote themselves out of a job ?? 🤣🤣

@reazonozaer @zhenguoli So for example, I have my own company and work alone (I'm like a freelancer but I have to have a "company" status to be able to bill my clients). Am I part of the bourgeoisie ? Even though I'm earning less than minimum wage in France ? (SMIC = ~1500€, my average income after taxes is ~800€)

That definition makes no sense if this is all that it takes into account ...

If, on the other hand, it means you have to have at least an employee, it still doesn't make sense [...]

@reazonozaer @zhenguoli I'm not from the US, so I can't speak too much about that, but here in France for example, the "bourgeoisie" is seen probably as the richest people in society, I think.

Is someone having their own company make them part of the "bourgeoisie" ? Or is there a limit to how much they earn that has to be surpassed for that to happen ?

Regarding the oppression : how does someone know if they are oppressed ? Is working for someone else considered oppression ? What has to happen