They literally posted a video with actual victims confronting the government. And told the story of another one in particular. Your video has some guy not personally impacted by any of this talking about what he thinks he saw somewhere.

And what’s with the projection? You’re the one making claims but not actually providing any real evidence. Maybe it’s not as bad as the United States says. But it certainly isn’t like the Chinese government says it is either.

I joined it because “Midwest”. To be frank though. Local posts are in the 10s a day. I never see them unless i select local only. I’ve seen a fair bit more left position represented than would seem representative of the Midwest. Not that it’s a bad thing. There is an instance pinned post about the administration standing with the protesters. Which again isn’t specifically a bad thing. (I’ll look at the discourse inside later) I see screechy hyperbolic posts about “genocide Joe” getting generally down voted. So I can’t make any real comments about any strong vibe. But no. Not all of us are coping with severe head trauma like archcomrade.

I’m an anarchist / social libertarian. None of these candidates are mine nor do I agree with much of anything they have to say. Unlike you. I’m simply more mature and can acknowledge that one of the two is going to be in office next year. And I understand pragmatically that one despite their flaws is worlds better than the other. Me not voting isn’t going to make anything better. In fact it’s likely to make things worse. Therefore I am morally obligated to try to make sure the best possible outcome happens. And I’m not comfortable with just sitting back virtually signaling like so many around here do. Those like yourself.

Military police? Absolutely. China’s police are in service to the state much like military police. It definitely tracks.

Said someone who’s never mastered it. I have a college education myself. And work in IT. I’m just not that much of an egoist to disrespect people like you do. I’ve met truly skilled and great people doing menial jobs and not being compensated enough. You wouldn’t last a week at most of these jobs. You feel you could master in an afternoon. Simply because you’d be dealing with people like yourself.

I think you made a non-sequitur. They never said anything about that. Simply pointed out how all jobs require knowledge and training of some sort to be good at them. Perhaps in the future you should debate in good faith and not create straw men to push a false narrative.

Training is training regardless of how you receive it isn’t it? Perhaps you should take your own advice.

Germans making excuses to hate innocent people. You making excuses to hate innocent people. How is a different?

You said it yourself. You don’t know what you’re talking about here. And despite your continuing ad hominem’s and antagonism. I will take one last moment to point out that the use of the term is scholarly and meant to be taken in context. And not colloquially or in layman’s terms. It was no more man-made than the dust bowls were in the US. Or any of the other droughts and famines throughout the rest of the world in the exact same times. Saying they were man-made is like claiming that all global warming is man-made. It’s not completely. But man is making it worse. But we are also in a natural global warming trend. Context is important. Eldritch is 100% of correct in this instance. They’ve correctly stated multiple times the human activity made it worse. Which is what the scholarly consensus is. Their only major mistake was engaging those who were disingenuous, smarmy, and or bad faith. Same mistake I made

Also, it’s not what I think. But thank you for telegraphing your bad faith. The people who wrote the software stack. Literally have stated many places many times stated the reason directly.

I’ll side any day with someone passionately espousing the truth, over someone who calmly lies

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