A discord community I’m in has been sharing 3x3 cover image grids of the games that “define you”. I’ll just paste my response from there:

I’m not bothering to share an image because it would just be 7 Kingdom Hearts titles, Tribes 2, and Oregon Trail

Your shitpostid is in the format of a North American phone number, with an area code in Quebec.

Nothing implied by that, just couldn’t help but notice.

c/chevron7 is leaking

also shal kek nemron, brother

This type of environment, and OPs reaction to it, is how people develop compulsive behaviors that are unhealthy. You can hear it in how they talk about even simple things, like their extreme disgust towards saliva deposited in a trash can. Revulsion towards saliva in a trash can is not normal. Saliva left on a surface? Or on their person? Sure, gross. But a trash can is an appropriate place for someone to spit. It doesn’t deserve the vehement disgust OP displays.

I’m not diminishing how unhygienic and disgusting their family is. The photos make it clear that they live in a completely inexcusable level of filth. I just don’t want OP to continue down this path of obsessive, compulsive cleanliness. There’s a happy medium.

So, based on your description and the pictures, here’s my take:

Your family is unhygienic and gross. Water leaking from surfaces can pick up all sorts of gross stuff. Leaving food waste (I see banana peels I think?) out and exposed to open air leads to rotting and mold which can definitely make you sick. Used toilet paper with fecal matter on it left in an open trash can? HELLA gross.

BUT

Your reaction to this environment is going too far. Disinfecting your phone constantly? Concerns about people spitting in the trash? Not eating any leftovers or drinking from any container you didn’t open yourself? These are going too far. As others have pointed out, some contact with germs is important to maintain a healthy immune system.

There’s a middle-ground that both you AND your family are missing.

Wash your hands after using the bathroom and before eating, sure. Don’t leave things that rot out in the open, of course.

Putting the garbage can next to the table while clearing it? Totally fine. Eating leftovers that have been refrigerated for a day? Totally fine.

I understand why you’ve developed hyper-vigilence living in that kind of environment. It makes sense. But I think you’re probably overcompensating.

You might benefit from learning more about the human immune system, food safety, and other science-based topics. Did you know that urine, for example, is sterile? You can literally safely drink human urine (with some exceptions). Feces, on the other hand, is total opposite of sterile.

I’m sorry you have to live in such a gross environment. I hope you can find a way to convince your family to meet you in the middle.

EDIT: In the US this is covered by the Fair Labor Standards Act, which is extremely simple when defining what is considered on-the-job work. If it is mandatory, work-related, and for the benefit of the company, then it is on-the-job work and you should be paid for the time. So congratulations; you’ve likely participated in wage theft by onboarding people who aren’t being paid for their time. Obviously it wasn’t knowingly or with intent, but that doesn’t change the fact that, based on your response, your employers have had you or your coworkers participate in failing to pay people what they are owed.

Except for the other reply that starts “you are right. you cannot onboard a new job before you leave your old one”??? They may go on to say that accepting an offer isn’t onboarding but since I never tried to argue that it was, that’s kind of irrelevant.

Lots of people don’t know their rights or their obligations. Wage theft is the #1 from of theft in the US by a lot. Coordinating with an IT department for onboarding without getting paid for it is straight up wage theft and being taken advantage of. Doing so while still employed by another company is moonlighting under most contracts.

People do shit like that all the time. Doesn’t make it right. Doesn’t make it safe.

If you’re talking to the IT department about workstation configuration without signing a contract and getting paid for it, you’re being taken advantage of.

Yes, it’s reasonable, and smart, to ask people during the interview process about their tech stack. But there is no way I’m coordinating with IT on the setup and configuration of my workstation without a contract in place or before my start date.

I didn’t say you had to quit before accepting the offer. I said that the onboarding process itself is considered part of employment. If you’re talking to IT about setting up your workstation and not getting paid for it I feel bad that you’re being taken advantage of

Not only is this definitely true in the US but I know it’s true in other countries like the UK and Japan as well.

Communicating with IT is absolutely part of the onboarding process. And the phrasing of the email clearly states they are rescinding an offer acceptance, as in they had already accepted and begun onboarding.