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@AsahiLinux What does "random people" actually mean? Is it someone who's not you....or not officially connected to the project? Could a random person be someone who's well known within the Asahi community, but not outside of it? Some people equate random with anonymous....but that's clearly not the case here. Could you give us an example of who a random person might be in this case?

@tommythorn
It's a single command:

sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=40

Afterwards, you'll be prompted to enter the following:

sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot

It's not difficult....

@marcan
hmmm in /etc/default/grub trying setting GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=""
or just comment out GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT

Then update grub with

grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

....and reboot. I think that's the issue. You'll get a clean grub menu, but will probably have that 5 second delay.
I can tell you have GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console" set because of the strange characters in your grub menu.

Actually don't you have a system with a minimal build installed on it? If you do -- do you have the 5 second delay on that system?

....because that build doesn't have the console option set. (because we wanted a clean grub menu for that build)
https://pagure.io/fedora-asahi/kiwi-descriptions/blob/rawhide/f/platforms/minimal.xml#_10

But if I set GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=""
and then generate a new /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTAA64.EFI
with this
https://github.com/leifliddy/asahi-firstboot/blob/main/sbin/create-efi-bootloader

I get a clean grub menu without the 5 second delay.

I'm not really sure where the problem lies with this.....

Tree - fedora-asahi/kiwi-descriptions - Pagure.io

@marcan booting with modified BOOTAA64.EFI
I'm pretty sure I'm looking in the right place....see if you can tell the difference in how fast it transitions from uboot --> grub
(without any manual intervention)
@marcan booting with stock BOOTAA64.EFI

@marcan Heh, that's why I created /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTAA64.EFI which only only contains a grub image. My (Asahi) system transitions from uboot to grub much faster now.
https://github.com/leifliddy/asahi-firstboot/blob/main/sbin/create-efi-bootloader

I hope one day that Fedora will ship with a tool that will allow you to customize your shim so you can remove useless features that don't pertain to your system.

asahi-firstboot/sbin/create-efi-bootloader at main · leifliddy/asahi-firstboot

Miscellaneous admin scripts for the Asahi Linux Fedora distro - leifliddy/asahi-firstboot

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@ydalton
Yes, it does. Just read some of Janne's posts
https://social.treehouse.systems/@janne/111035639487519110

I've had a mac mini m2 since Jan when it was released -- and I can't wait to install Linux on it!!!

I've been using qemu + vagrant for far too long....

Janne Grunau (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 video @AsahiLinux progress 5 standalone HDMI output initialization by m1n1 on a M2 Pro mac mini and booting into Fedora asahi remix/KDE. M2 mac mini works as well. M2 Max/Ultra mac studio and pro should work as well (user tested an earlier version on a M2 Ultra Studio). Requires small modifications of the device trees in linux to avoid powering down the DisplayPort phy (or “pd_ignore_unused”). Still needs review and testing but no more open TODOs from me. https://github.com/AsahiLinux/m1n1/pull/329 Next step is finishing the integration in the linux apple drm driver.

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@fwcd @marcan
I'm not sure that supporting something == encouraging a particular use-case scenario. Many people like to install 3rd party apps via flatpak. That doesn't equate to all flatpak apps are preferred over native packages.

In anycase GNOME != Fedora
There is a massive distinction there.

@fwcd @marcan
Got it. So in the instance where there are no official Fedora packages available (ie steam or spotify or Signal-Desktop). You can either get install them through a 3rd party repo (like rpmfusion) or via a flatpak. But that's a different debate.....which is more like "which one of these 3rd party packages is better"
@fwcd @marcan
Why would you think Fedora that encourages Flatpak apps over distro packages? Can you provide any evidence to support that (from authoritative sources)?