> It's just a HN thing though.

It’s not. People on Reddit, Mastodon, and other websites are also aware (of course not everyone, but not everyone on HN either).

> Ask a European who isn't in tech, and they won't know what you're talking about.

People who haven’t heard about Chat Control haven’t heard the bill’s real name either. That’s true of the overwhelming majority of EU regulation, Chat Control isn’t special in that regard.

That’s already (kind of) the name it has. “Chat Control” is a name given by critics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_Control

Exactly. Its real name is “Regulation to Prevent and Combat Child Sexual Abuse”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_Control

As a EU citizen, it pisses me off that the US is (with others outside the EU) trying this hard to lobby to undermine our democracy and freedom of speech.

https://digitalcourage.social/@echo_pbreyer/1162053712243153...

And I’d still take this clusterfuck over the alternative current state of the US. At least this situation we can (and have been) striking down, despite all the naysayers on HN. Here’s to hoping we’re able to do so again!

> Everyone piles on at the time.

Not this much, they don’t.

> looking at older versions of MacOS just looks old fashioned

It’s an operating system, not a dress to parade around on a catwalk. I don’t want it to be fashionable and change with the seasons, I want it to be usable and intuitive. And yes, it should look good (which Tahoe doesn’t) but to the extent that it makes usability better, never in detriment of it.

> The clearest example of lobbying (chat control) has repeatedly been struck down.

So far. But they’ll keep lobbying and we’ll need to keep fighting.

> What examples of this do you have in recent years (post 2016)?

Digital Omnibus is another.

https://noyb.eu/en/gdpr-omnibus-eu-simplification-far-remove...

https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/eu-digit...