TheHiddenCatboy

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We can only hope that this is what pulls the Trump Coalition apart. It’s a hard thing, though. They’re a bunch of knuckleheads!

I’m not going to join the downvote brigade because I do appreciate your position, but I will say…

…these people have had PLENTY of space to change who they are and how they vote. They had 4 years of ‘finding out’ after they fucked around in 2016. And we warned them, big time, what a vote for him in 2024 would mean. How much space will you and others like you give these people. That’s the question of the hour.

“But but but…I’m one of the GOOD ones!!! DON’T DEPORT ME!!! JUST THE PEOPLE I DON’T LIKE!!!” 🤣

I mean, the evidence is right there.

In 2020, 81 million people turned out for Biden. That number decreased to 75 million in 2024.

In 2020, 74 million people turned out for Trump. That number increased to 77 million in 2024.

In 2020, roughly 2.9 million people turned out for a third party candidate. Of these, 1.8m went Libertarian, with 407k for Green. In 2024, 2.9 million turned out for a 3rd party. This time it broke 862k for the Greens, 756k for Junior (I refuse to sully the Kennedy Name with him!), and 650k for the Libertarians.

Explicit evidence that requires a minimum of data science skills to process. 6 million people who voted for Biden didn’t turn out for Harris, while Trump somehow got 3 million more people to vote for him. Meanwhile, support for the Libertarians cratered by 1.2m, and support for the Greens doubled from 407k to 862k. And Junior? He was explicitly in the race to hurt Dems. So, another 756k added to the Dem ‘alternative’ vote, now split between two parties. So, from 1.8m spoiling the Right in 2020 to 1.6m spoiling the Left.

The data is there if you’re willing to look. All 1.6m of those people who voted Green or Junior for some strange reason? They voted for this. Just like the 6 million people who voted for Biden in 2020 and didn’t in 2024, or the unknown number of people, estimated betwen 90m and 100m, who sat home. And of course, the 77 million who voted directly for Trump. Every last one of these people, save the fraction of the 77 million who want what Trump promised, could have had a seat at the table and a voice at trying to drive the monolith that is US policy, but they elected to surrender their agency.

I know you don’t like to hear this, but everyone who made those choices above has surrendered this country to Fascism. And I’m not sorry for calling it out.

News flash: Everyone you mention is getting blame.

We’re not absolving the 77 million (to correct your numbers) Trump voters. In fact, this is explicitly called out whenever someone says “This is not what I voted for!” on Team Red. Especially when we say “Oh, no, this is exactly what you voted for, but you voted for it to happen to other people. Suck it up, buttercup!”

And the 100 million non-voters? They are EXACTLY who are being called out by someguy3. I mean, ‘protest-non-voters’ explicitly belong in the group of 100 million who don’t vote.

And don’t forget a lesson everyone old enough to vote should have learned a loong, loong time ago. We don’t always get what we want. When the choices are “Greater Evil” and “Lesser Evil”, which they are all too often, either you vote “Lesser Evil” or accept the consequences of “Greater Evil”. 100 million people said they couldn’t be bothered to choose, and 2 million thought they had a viable alternative beyond “Greater Evil” and “Lesser Evil” and threw their votes away for distraction candidates.

And here we are. Enjoy your Mango Mussolini. That’s the guy you picked with all the ranting you did above, assuming you didn’t swallow your pride and vote Harris in '24. In that case, other people making your argument picked Mango Mussolini for all of us.

Eeeyep. And my reply to them?

“You did. You absofuckinglutely did. History has proven time and time and time and (four hours later) time again that right-wing dictatorships do EXACTLY what the Shitgibbon’s administration is doing. You voted for it. You just hoped it’d happen to the people you didn’t like. News flash. They don’t like you. So, pack your bags and drop your shorts. The Dildo of Consequences has arrived, and as usual, it is not lubed. Enjoy!!!”

That’s why I’m not down on Fetterman’s voters. Hell. I won’t be down on them next General if the choice is him or a GQP shill. That’s the thing about people like Susan Collins. At the end of the day, we have no leverage on her. She answers to the GQP, not to us. Fetterman knows he’s leashed by the DNC. He is risking a lot stepping out of line. Committee assignments. Connections. After-Retirement positions. He keeps fucking around, his only play will be switching parties. Once he does that, he’s not a Democrat anymore. Until then, however, he has to to deal with our pressure (and after, well, he’ll have to deal with the GQP’s pressure…and we’ll see how much he’s willing to throw away for power!)

It is not a good faith question.

Many people took your words to heart and sat out, voted third party, or, worst of all, voted Shitgibbon. Now, not only are we funding Israel to bomb Gaza, we’re planning on starting World War 3 with Iran. Stupid is as stupid does, and this is the biggest tent of stupid in the world.

Podcast Bro Turns on Trump: ‘I Voted For None of This’

https://lemmy.world/post/32821699

Podcast Bro Turns on Trump: ‘I Voted For None of This’ - Lemmy.World

Alternative Link: https://archive.is/myzWl [https://archive.is/myzWl] > “There’ll be people that they’ll DM me like, ‘You see what your boy’s doing? You voted for this.’ I’m like, ‘I voted for none of this,’” he said. “He’s doing the exact opposite of everything I voted for. I want him to stop the wars—he’s funding them. I want him to shrink spending, reduce the budget—he’s increasing it.” No, buddy. You DID vote for this. You absolutely voted for ALL of this because everything Trump is doing now, he promised, and campaigned on. And you yourself noted he’s a Lying Liar that Lies. So you absofuckinglutely voted for all of what’s going on right now. > “When you feel like the status quo will do nothing and change nothing, you have way more of a longer leash for the outsiders’ ideas than you do the status quo’s ideas,” he said. “And I think that was the idea with Trump, who’s like, ‘Maybe he will stop these wars.’ No. ‘Maybe we will see what’s up with this Epstein s–t.’ No.” Take it from somebody who grew up as the Shitgibbon did. He used you. Just like he’s used everyone else. You thought he’d expose himself as being a kiddy-diddler? Take the legal risk of being jailed, losing his whole Teflon schtick? Fuck no, that’s for the LITTLE people. Like you!!! And maybe you can wrap your head around this little fact. All politicians have their issues, mainly because the guy you pick is opposed by everyone else who wants the pie all to their own. But Trump is worse than most!

Easiest way here is make losing citizenship a criminal charge, with the whole ‘appointed lawyer’ and ‘burden of proof’ that designation includes. That’s one thing a Dem “Project 2029” should include.