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@daringfireball Dediu has nailed it. You’ve spent months barking up the magic LLM tree, even though the jury’s still out on whether “agentic” LLMs can ever be created that are reliable enough to justify their cost. Really, the writing’s been on the wall since Deepseek R1: LLMs are a commodity.

This is similar to Liquid Glass – where others (de With, in that case) thoughtfully map forests, these days you just count trees. I can only hope Apple has stopped listening to you🤞🏽

@daringfireball You’re focused on the wrong thing. Something is rotten across Silicon Valley. In a lot of cases, LLM technologies simply cannot achieve the functionalities being claimed. This is almost certainly the wall that Apple keeps hitting, probably because it has a higher bar for shipped products than anyone else. And when you consider just how much of the US economy is now leveraged on this non-starter of a technology, you’ll see that the rot runs very deep indeed.
@daringfireball So far everything I’ve seen Apple do in relation to Trump has been at the expense of the US national self-image, which to me hardly seems worth protecting. Going along with the whims of autocratic leaders (in this case, democratically elected), esp within those leaders’ borders, isn’t unusual for Apple… it’s done similar things elsewhere. If Apple were to behave differently in relation to Trump, it would be validating US exceptionalism, which to me is much worse.

@daringfireball As someone who feels no affiliation to any particular world power, I tend to think of this on a case-by-case basis.

Microsoft is already generally a blight on the world, and is suspected here of having carried out what is effectively an attack on the ICC. That’s much more serious than anything Apple has done to placate your commander in chief.

Although I have to say, if the ICC matters that much to Americans, it might be worth ratifying the Rome statute, maybe?

@daringfireball This again?

Why don’t you go back and read some of your own posts about Samsung’s moon camera feature back in, whenever it was, 2023?

It’s starting to seem a little suspicious that you were able to apply a reasonable framework of authorship and artistry back then, but not now, in relation to the generative “AI” of the current bubble.

Apple has worked out that this stuff is largely snake oil. Why haven’t you?

@daringfireball Or perhaps he keeps doing this because it works, because a sufficient chunk of the American electorate falls for it, because, as it turns out, exploiting and misinforming a populace for decades can end up weakening its ability to self-govern?

@daringfireball You really don’t understand LLMs, huh? Nor art, to be honest, but the latter’s never been your strong point.

The fact that your LLM takes are this uncritical is making me question my long-held assumption that you understand software better than I do.

@delric @daringfireball More than that, he’s overlooking the ramifications of science. Even Richard Sutton has come around to the view that scaling will not improve LLMs enough to deliver what’s being promised. Ie the whole basis for the data centre boom is invalid.
Funnily enough, Apple has produced some strong research contributing to this case, but it seems Gruber hasn’t been paying attention. I guess it’s too difficult to face the reality 🤷🏽‍♂️
@daringfireball This is waffle. Thompson is in a bind, his “aggregation theory” fails in relation to AI (he’s trying to make it work, but all that’s emerged so far has been a mess of tautology and folly). I do get why he’s compelled to follow markets as they try and break from reality. His subs are probably all forehead-deep in the Kool-Aid, for one. Of course Apple seems dull from their perspective. But it’s a silly perspective. And unlike Thompson, you have no excuses for it.
@daringfireball This gives you a window into the extravaganza of ineptitude that’s been in charge in the UK for at least 10 yrs now. It’s a cross-party issue and has taken deep root in the executive and the legislature.
Plus, the fascistic element here is already trying to use this decline to force the idea that what the country needs is *more* of the incompetent elite in charge, not fewer. Similar to what the US has been facing, I guess – the revenge of the overpromoted bozo