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@chx let me repeat then:

I won’t bother you again and I hope you can extend the same courtesy to me. Let’s just stop this discourse now.

discussion - consideration of a question in open and usually informal debate

If you bait me directly and start going back and forth on a topic here, it is a discussion.

β€œI won’t bother you again and I hope you can extend the same courtesy to me” - I was hoping not to get a reply. But alas…

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discussion

@chx what does any of that have to do with what we are discussing: whether or not the tool is useful and works?

In any case, we all have to accept that almost everything we use in modern society has ethical problems. You choose this one to be your hill, that’s fine.

But since you very explicitly say you do not care to have a conversation, I will stop now. I won’t bother you again and I hope you can extend the same courtesy to me.

@chx I will leave you with an example. We have an internal library with an extensive test suite. But we realized a whole new class of tests would enhance confidence that it works correctly when it is used in a particular way.

It would’ve taken weeks to do this by hand. With Opus it took just a few hours to add full coverage and the new test suite uncovered 10 bugs and 2 architectural concerns.

This directly leads to a better product that uses this library and more confidence in new releases

@chx You remain biased and when challenged you attack me personally. It is impossible to have a civil conversation like this.
And I hope you do not see this as a personal attack. It’s only a criticism of how you approach communicating opposition against something you obviously feel passionate about.
It’s perfectly fine to talk about all the other concerns about this tech. But you seem biased about its usefulness, and unqualified to talk about that without personal experiences that go beyond a naive experiment.

@chx it did take some time to understand how to use it well, and we worked together and shared what we learned across our organization. And we keep doing that.

What makes your arguments weak is that all you do is point at things other people write that support your point of view, and
then reject outright what people with different experiences tell you.

And because you refuse (and I will respect that) to use them, you cannot form your own opinion based on real experiences

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@chx and my counterpoint is that I see it work every day. I’m not stupid and I work with very smart people who will say the same.