Human and Animal Liberation - Lemmy.world
Over the centuries humans have folded themselves into power structures that
benefit the few at the expense of the many. In the same way that the imperialist
subjugates and exploits the third world and the capitalist exploits the worker,
the human has positioned itself at the top of an explotative and murderous
relationship to nonhuman animals. The beneficiaries of the status quo will
emphasise their personal benefits, while refusing to acknowledge even so much as
the existence, let alone the moral value, of their victims. When forced to
engage with them, the justifications are often times the same - considering the
outgroup to be deserving of oppression due to a perceived lack of valuable
traits, be it intelligence, the ability to “contribute” to society or emotional
“depth”. If we let our morality only apply to our chosen ingroup rather than
extending it to all sentient life, we will inadvertantly leave intact the same
unjust power structures we readily criticise in the rest of society. Working
towards a life that doesn’t contribute to animal exploitation is not just
possible but necessary. Go vegan.
I never said “for any reason at all”. I said killing innocents against their will is wrong. I’m not necessarily opposed to all forms of euthanasia.
A sterilisation program would not be worse than slaughtering countless individuals and neither would be reintroducing predators that you hunted to extinction.
You don’t have to kill them to protect the environment and what you say about hunters as efficient and precise killers is incongruent with existing statistics. “I support going vegan” - are you vegan then? Clinging to a violent status quo while refusing to even so much as acknowledge the moral worth of its victims, because you feel as though they are so beneath you that you can take their lives and their bodies at will, is not something I would expect from a leftist, or even a decent person to begin with. Bad take.
So you’re saying that we shouldn’t kill individuals based on how much they destroy the environment actually.
Not being native doesn’t warrant execution and neither does being numerous. Some places have programs for neutering certain problematic species and while I would be careful about condoning those programs it certainly beat being shot and bleeding to death.
You could try and reintroduce the predators that were hunted instead of hunting more.
And that doesn’t address the point of killing innocents for what, the environment? If environmental damage is a reason to kill someone wouldn’t humans be top of the list?
Hunting still purposefully kills individuals who don’t want to die. “Population control” wouldn’t be necessary if hunting organisations didn’t purposefully increase populations in order to have more to hunt. And eating their flesh is necessary in what way? Why not leave it to the wild animals then?
Discussion Offer: Why we should be vegan
https://lemmy.world/post/3003064
Discussion Offer: Why we should be vegan - Lemmy.world
Since purchasing and consuming animal products both depends on and contributes
to animal agriculture, and animal farming necessitates rights violations against
nonhuman animals, not being vegan when you have the option is synonymous with
support for injustice. I believe that as leftists who purport ourselves to
strive towards a more just society, and as human beings who generally value
nonviolence and compassion, we should hold ourselves to a standard that doesn’t
allow for the perpetuation of mass-slaughter. Let’s discourse!
Cronometer ist ein ziemlich gutes Werkzeug, um Nährstoffmengen ausrechnen zu lassen. Am Anfang habe ich damit immer Mahlzeiten im Voraus geplant und nach einer Weile hatte ich das weitgehend genug verinnerlicht, dass ich jetzt nurnoch bei neuen Zutaten nachsehe. Die andere Ressource, die mir sehr geholfen hat, ist Nutritionfacts.org auf YouTube. Die konzentrieren sich meistens auf einzelne Zutaten und ihre Effekte auf den Metabolismus.
Das Problem am Töten Unschuldiger ist natürlich das Schlachthaus, also spritzt das Blut ab sofort auf der Wiese 👍
It’s a group of probably mostly teenagers and upwards, mocking anti-vegan and pro-animal-abuse positions. It is very online tho, for sure.
