there are harmful rapist murderer men who literally tortured children in those files, yet we’re here spending time criticizing JRK for… checks notes … a publicist (not JKR herself) sending a generic invite to Epstein for a play that was inspired by JKR’s book.
we get you don’t like her. focus on the truth, stop spreading disinformation.
Figures provided by National Ugly Mugs, a service which allows sex workers to confidentially report incidents of abuse and crime, showed that reports of abuse and crime against prostitutes greatly increased after Ireland’s adoption of the Nordic model approach to prostitution by criminalizing the purchase of sexual services. The figures stated that crimes against prostitutes increased by 90%, with violent crime increasing by 92%.
It is now illegal to be a prostitution-buyer or pimp in Ireland, so of course the number of reported crimes went up. Declaring failure because of more reports is like saying “MeToo” caused more rapes. No, you’re just hearing about what’s always been there, now that it’s safer to talk about it.
I hope pimps that keep women hidden in servitude on the black market face huge consequences for their unethical actions.
unfortunately I don’t have time to read the other two links (long pdfs), but thanks for providing them.
I am for the civilized approach of the Nordic Model.
What is the Nordic Model?
The Nordic Model (sometimes known as the Sex Buyer Law, and the Swedish, Abolitionist, Survivor or Equality Model) is an approach to prostitution that has been adopted in Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Northern Ireland, Canada, France, Ireland and Israel. It has several elements:
1. Decriminalisation of selling sex acts
Prostitution is inherently violent. Women should not be criminalised for the exploitation and abuse they endure.
2. Buying sex acts becomes a criminal offence
Buying human beings for sex is harmful, exploitative and can never be safe. We need to reduce the demand that drives sex trafficking.
3. Support and exit services
High quality, non-judgemental services to support those in prostitution and help them build a new life outside it, including: access to safe affordable housing; training and further education; child care; legal, debt and benefit advice; emotional and psychological support.
A holistic approach
A public information campaign; training for police and CPS; tackling the inequality and poverty that drive people into prostitution; effective laws against pimping and sex trafficking, with penalties that reflect the enormous damage they cause. Read more >>

Nordic Model Now! is a UK grassroots campaign for the Nordic Model approach to prostitution – the ONLY approach that recognises the prostitution system as part of the structural oppression of women and other marginalised groups, and as both a cause and a consequence of the persistent inequality between the sexes.
you’re asking the right questions. unfortunately a lot of people are so porn-brained that they have to silence anyone who dares ask a question that might make their peepees go soft.
so many people would rather look the other way and ignore harm to women and children because it benefits them to not think about it.
The thing is, there’s not much point debating you.
Hey, I’m genuinely sorry if anything I’ve said has come off as hurtful or insincere. I don’t like to think of this thread as a debate, myself. I like to have conversations, and I really don’t like debates full of gotchas and personal attacks that some “anti trans” people use. I wouldnt call myself anti trans. I try to just talk and listen, and let people know when I agree with them. If you aren’t super comfortable talking here, I don’t want to pressure you to continue. I try to see you as a conversation partner and not an opponent since we’re all humans after all. For now, you asked some questions and made some statements, so I’ll answer those:
But, I think you don’t want sports segregated by sex assigned at birth, either. If you did, you would have trans men competing against women.
You’re right actually, I don’t think segregating by sex is the best possible solution. I might have said something different before, so please excuse me if I misspoke. Thanks for catching me out there. I think that it is important that women have the right to their own protected category, to increase opportunities and recognition. I probably explained that better in my last response. But in general, I think it would be nice if there were two categories: Women and Open. As far as the Open category goes, anyone would be able to participate there no matter what, as long as they can perform at the level required. This gets rid of a lot of silly debates, while still allowing women athletes to have guaranteed access to opportunities and recognition in the Womens category, or choose to compete on the Open stage if they qualify. Since I can’t have my ideal world, though, I think that having Mens and Womens categories is… an ok solution. How much can we reasonably change? As far as your question of: “trans men competing against women” goes, most sporting authorities have rules that athletes can’t compete if they’ve taken a steroid (extra testosterone for example) in the last X months. Do you think this is a good rule?
feel free to look into long- and ultra-distance running for instances of women getting closer to men’s times
Ah! Yes, I’m actually familiar with this. Thanks for bringing it up. Long distance / endurance competitions are one of the few cases where women may outperform men. This is pretty interesting, and I haven’t looked into why it is. Maybe pain tolerance? Either way, this is pretty cool.
I’d really like to understand you point of view better. If you have some time, I’m curious. Can I ask:
I’d also like to ask, based on your last comment:
The biggest issue is that there just aren’t enough trans athletes to know how much of an advantage or disadvantage being trans gives you, but, on average, it is likely to be pretty minimal if there even is one.
How would you define being trans? This might seem like a silly question, but I want to make sure we’re talking about the same thing. Personally, I think that anyone who says “I’m trans” is trans. This means that no medicalization is necessary, cause trans is just an identity. So according to that definition, “being trans” alone gives you literally 0 advantage/disadvantage! (lol at the technicalities of definitions). But yeah, What do you think?