I mean, it might be, but the cable could be stiff, so this isn’t a good tell. I think the era of being able to reliably call AI slop is over.

I don’t think they are techno-solutionists but that sometimes is the vibe they give off.

I just think there’s some directions they won’t go thanks to the threat of capital.

I think you could argue that they’re actually trying to mimic real numbers.

Firstly they did not even know that musical festival was taking place.

Why does this matter. Would Israels reaction be different? They wanted to genocide from the beginning.

Secondly they are not “civilians” they are settlers illegally occupying Palestinian land.

With the understanding that they would be protected by their government. They are evil fascists, but that doesn’t make them combatants.

lastly they are not a “religious extremist organization” even if they once had been.

Do you have a source on this? I am open to changing my position on this.

So here you are legitimizing violence of a settler colonial ethnostate as “self defense”

That statement is very broad. I am legitimizing specific violence of a settler colonial ethnostate as “self defense”. I think they are in their right to dismantle Hamas using violence. But what they have done has far surpassed that. I think Israel has the ability to arrest/kidnap and try high ranking members of Hamas. I think that would be a reasonable response to October 7th. But they did the worst possible thing and I don’t condone that.

I was far too generous before. I wish the same upon you as I do on the IDF.

Oh yeah, my belief that Israel is a fascist genocidal state surely makes me morally equivalent to IDF. These nuanced replies I am making is like I am out there killing Palestinian babies my self. Sure!

What’s better is to organize, and agitate against the system directly.

And we are free to think about doing anything towards this goal, except vote?

This seems like a trauma response to blue maga. I think, for the time being, we may have to agree to disagree here. I am in the process of thinking things over and reading some more.

I get not wanting to vote because it doesn’t have any effect on you personally. But if voting improves or decrease the decay of material conditions towards whatever your goals are. I don’t understand not doing it if it isn’t too much trouble. Seems like leaving something on the table to me.

So like I was banned and I deserve more bad treatment? That makes sense. Thanks.

I get that.

I just want to know for myself. As time goes on it seems less likely we are in the set of material conditions that an incremental approach would get us out of this mess.

I’m also doing a lot of thinking and I don’t know if what I am shooting for is electoralism. I mean it depends on getting into power and then breaking capitalism by any means. Even illegal means. So many I fall more under a peaceful revolution type. I need to think and read a bit more. I am not built for reading.

I’m labeled a terrorist by both parties, though. It isn’t an easier under the DNC, and further, the fascism was already here.

Yeah, that makes sense. I guess I lack that perspective. I will have to think on it.

Yeah, DNC effectively controlled opposition IMHO. I’m not trying to say there should be serious organizational efforts made to vote in a Democrat. I understand the ideological reason why it doesn’t matter who wins. I don’t understand the practical standpoint of not saying, “yeah, sure if you are in a situation where your vote matters, and it isn’t too much of a hassle for you, vote for the less fascist candidate.”

Biden and Trump both are genocidal imperialists, neither is an actual improvement.

I agree, neither is an improvement, but one would have given us at least 4 more years without such and extreme shift towards fascism. Is it not easier to organize without being labeled a terrorist?

As for capitalism, I really don’t know what you’re saying here. It’s only a few hundred years old, it isn’t instinctual.

Yeah, sorry, not saying it is instinctual, well not directly, I’m saying it feels good to think you are the person that owns production. I have played video games where you play as the capitalist. Feel really good to be in that position. I am sure there is some instinct in there some place, but not that it is specific to capitalism.