I’m going to lecture the idiot that doesn’t understand democracy and doesn’t think voting works, cuz you know, age demographics mean that each one of these election cycles if a few more young people vote things might quickly change. But you don’t want to vote in a real candidate in a primary in 4 years. You just want to cry a river now.

Go for it. Continue to convince yourself and the kids not to vote and continue to bitch about both sides when you can’t even be bothered to try.

Yea, actually, it’s you that’s saying you plan not to vote for Trump because somehow the more corporate TV clown is better than the horrible centrist dem that also likes corporate money.

I plan to vote. Just like a voted in primaries for not the right leaning centrist dem.

If you kids would ever come out and vote in primaries or really ever you might get on with a plan that works for you too. But you won’t. Because you just want to bitch and whine, not put in the hard work, so you’ll waste democracy.

The other guy thought it was too much of a pain in the ass to even spell 737 correctly tho. But yes, some things absolutely should be a pain in the ass. Like when something going even slightly wrong will likely kill someone.

So a lot of us voted for what we thought was better option than a centrist in a lot of primaries before Biden, before Obama even.

I don’t think anyone is asking for your to always hold your nose and vote, but the man beat trump once, and if he does it again we can all do something more than bitch and moan that Biden isn’t good enough.

I’m not surprised by the way you feel tho, just caution that life is a lot longer than two presidential elections.

So if Trump lost the Republican primaries that would change the entire calculus. I didn’t say you had to vote for Biden under all possible circumstances. Just that not voting for Biden would be basically voting for Trump (the worse option) because we don’t use ranked choiced voting in this country and due to first past the poll only have two parties.

You do you though, if you want to be bitter, go for it. But I’d rather be really bitter with the DNC and with Biden than watch a TV star clown dismantle democracy for the lolz.

At least Biden tolerates dissent and Dems rarely agree on anything entirely.

Wait till you see what the let’s start an insurrection , have secret service try election fraud, try to kidnap the vice president, fuckboi has in store for us.

I won’t lie down because Biden isn’t perfect. So therefore I’ll whore for the person that is worse on the majority of the issues I care about?

At least when it was about Hillary vs Bernie you could appear to be arguing in good faith, that one would. E a better choice. Now it just appears as bitter that things won’t be perfect so it should all be burnt down.

Set their pay to be the lowest military pay at E-1 salary anytime there’s a war on or troops are: in combat, deployed, or enlisted are staged even in a supporting roll in someone else’s warzone.

Let see how long it takes for congress to find a way to end the wars and bring the troops home from the southern boarders if they’re all getting E1 pay. Or maybe they really do believe what they’re preaching and will be willing to do without for the war effort.

Look, I can’t tell you how to vote, that’s a person matter.

But as a veteran I’d sleep a lot more sound with someone who isn’t a clown holding the nuclear launch codes.

Project 2025 should scare the hell out of you. apnews.com/…/election-2024-conservatives-trump-he…

I mean, you do you tho… If I could say anything I’d be to try not to vote on feelings or single issues alone. There’s always another election, unless of course, there’s a literal plan to replace the government and not do that anymore…

If you’re not afraid of the commander and chief of the military being Trump, being worse for what’s happening in the middle east, you are asleep.

There is no guarantee that the Dems will take both chambers. Your plan to increase protest voting in support for trump sounds a lot like when Hillary told Bernie bros that she didn’t need them, and they said they wouldn’t vote for her in that case.

We ended up with Trump, not by popular vote, but by just enough. Trump has praised the Israeli military. If this is your single issue, then siding with Trump won’t improve any fait in the middle east.

As a veteran with PTSD, DPDR, that has spent a lot of work, time, and money to not have a bad day. If I cannot prevent myself from committing acts of violence please just put me down.

There is no reason my existence, for whatever reason caused it to be fucked up should cause harm to others. As a survivor of abuse at the hands of Catholic Church, nothing justifies harming children. As a TBI traumatic Brian injury survivor of war, my continued existence and freedom existence doesn’t justify continuing to abuse others or commit unsanctioned acts of violence against others.

If I am incapable of controlling myself or not causing harm to others I should not be allowed to cause harm to others simply because I am a faulty individual that has been harmed or suffered. My suffering does it justify causing others to suffer. Get out of here with that bull shit. If the person refuses medications, therapy, work then the only alternative is involuntary treatment.