@garfield coheres as long as you use class + psychoanalysis imo: joker is oliver twist, unmoored boy searching for true parents/identity. Mom (the proletariat) can’t provide due to ruined inchoate identity; Dad 1 (deniro—entrepreneurialism) uses monopoly power to crush, reject son; Dad 2 (aristocracy) refuses duty of care, uses medical violence to harm mom & son. joker reasons he must kill all parents, become self-generating; lost boys/mutant rats spirit him away to retributive violence fantasy