@nerdybutcute Is it just me, or does he sort of seem like Jimmy Carter, but without being completely screwed by the establishment (other than Manchin). Even if he’s old fashioned and a total lib, he seems to take input well from experts and care for the needs of people. His fault is excessive pragmatism but we can’t know how much opposition he gets on given ideas from other politicians. His foreign policy is much better for the average American than under anyone as far as I recall

@nerdybutcute Remember as well, it is possible to dig into Biden with the reason of leftism view without painting him as evil or indefensible or reducing the debate to one of personal attacks. General election civility is gone, but the more civil it can be within a party, the better for all involved, especially on a long enough timeline

@DetectiveP @nerdybutcute I dont think you quite realize what failing at a sufficient level to quickly implement leftist ideals would require. For all the faults in America, democracy is deeply entrenched, so dismantling it would require total collapse. It would be less like the French Rev and more like the Yugoslav collapse, especially with how many guns around. And remember, for every leftist fighting strong, theres a fascist willing to kill hundreds of innocents

@kupaye @nerdybutcute Understandable, but there is currently no real option in US politics which won’t continue the embargo for the foreseeable future. There are a variety of very real contenders that are very fasc. Though they claim to be isolationist, they are out for themselves and for business interests. As we know, the American business interests usually end up not being isolationist for long with respect to US interference in Latin America

@tillianisafox @nerdybutcute @Greenseer I absolutely understand the mistrust. One vital thing to remember, tho, is that left, right and center are relative and serve as categories, not ideologies in themselves. It’s easy to criticize centrists for obvious reasons but remember that there are apolitical centrists, ‘both sides’ centrists (the WORST imo), and not-so-rare moderates, who are in the middle out of good-willed but naïve care and can be trusted. :)