And in the final episode of this first tranche of three, agrarian thinker Chris Smaje joins me for a conversation about *his* book “Finding Lights in a Dark Age,” an exploration of what he sees as the need for a transition from mostly urban to mostly rural “sustainable livelihood communities.”

Chris shares his journey from academia to small farming in southwest England — highlighting the challenges involved in balancing high-complexity modern technology with local autonomy. We discuss the need for a practical, local politics of livelihood, and the potential for a large-scale urban-to-rural movement that might underwrite such a politics.

https://lifepod.transistor.fm/s1/2